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Comentado por 18814

Does this ability benefit from Attack Power? Can it crit?

Comentado por Gimlyly

How much is "additional threat"?
Double?

Comentado por 23639

This spell alllows warriors to be very effective in tanking multi-elite pulls without CC. Combining Thunderclap and tab-Sundering/Revenge, you can effectively hold up to 4 mobs with enough threat to counter healer aggro.

However unlike the paladin Consecrate + Holy Shield threat generation, without a substantial threat-lead, you probably won't be able stay ahead of mage/warlock AoE, aka. the fast-fun-and-famous Shattered Halls Prot Pally runs, where every elite pack is AoEd down instead of CC-ed and single targeted.

Comentado por doublediamond410

Generally more useful for tanking than solo'ing or PvP'ing.

Creates strong threat for ~~up to 4~~ all nearby targets, as well as dealing some damage and reducing your own damage taken.

Comentado por 138937

This skill is categorized as a spell even though its damage is mitigated by armor as its considered physical, lame.

Comentado por 159372

Anyone know what threat this wave blasts for at 70 with:
+100% dmg 3/3 improved clap
-10% dmg def stance

+15% threat 3/3 Defiance
+30% threat Defensive Stance bonus

123 base dmg (rank 7)
+42 spell damage (superior wizard oil).

Comentado por 157011

in the WOTLK expansion there will be this talent,so Thunder Clap can crits.

Incite (Protection)

Increases the critical strike chance of your Heroic Strike, Thunder Clap and Cleave abilities by 5%/10%/15%.
(3 Ranks)

Comentado por 71961

Does anybody happen to know what the attack power coefficient for this ability is? Even a 15% coefficient would make this attack quite potent when coupled with the Improved Thunderclap talent.

Comentado por Kebabas

Stupid question: does this affect spellcasting speed? >.> or only ranged and melee?

Comentado por Ecwfrk

This ability causes additonal threat.

Does it add musical tones to threat or something?

Comentado por hypehuman

As of right now (since all of this is subject to change), you get get 30% more damage for 60% less rage in a 25% increased radius (which comes to a 56.25% increase in area). These benefits are conferred by Improved Thunder Clap, Focused Rage, Glyph of Resonating Power, and Glyph of Thunder Clap.

Comentado por sinaraine

as of wotlk its modified by attack power... my thunder clap does about 500 now..

Comentado por 64664

It doesn't just hit 4 units as it was before. In fact it hits the area around you and everyone in it.
"Blasts nearby enemies."
Excellent for tanking multiple annoying mobs like in Shadow Labs and Arcatraz. Sheep? Who needs a sheep if you can tank them all.

Comentado por 138937

Does anyone know the exact range and AP conversion on this ability? Its easy to judge range in battle, but an exact number would be useful. And dmg caused varies by armor, so much harder to make a good guess, I think its 10% or less.

Comentado por gamemaster

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who cares about your habitat little beast i am gonna kill i am the storm grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

Comentado por 79805

Yeah, back in 'ole TBC when you were type cast into only being able to go to certain raids because they needed you to take hateful strikes or to AoE tank. The good old days.

One thing I have noticed recently, and I'm not sure if its just me, but my thunderclap no longer applies a debuff image, so i wonder if that -10% debuff still applies itself. Time to go for a test I suppose... *hunts for victims*

Comentado por Matzai

Thunder Clap benefits 1 dmg for every (5 STR =) 10 AP. at least on my lvl 23 Warrior. That makes it:
Thunder Clap: Damage + 0.1*AP = total damage

Comentado por Kiliana

Thunder Clap is a waste of mana.

Comentado por Fearghail

The resource is rage. Are you just trolling? Thunder clap is a versatile talent that has uses for Arms, Fury and Protection warriors in pve and pvp.

Comentado por 389922

Just because nobody mentioned it:
Thunderclap is blocked by silence effects. Remember about that when you encounter mobs with that ability. This can really cause some nasty problems. Especially when you realize that silence turn shouts off to.

Comentado por sillybuns

: This ability now counts as a ranged attack, granting it double damage on critical strikes instead of 150% and ranged miss chance, and still cannot be dodged or parried.

Hurray, finally, a positive change for our beloved thunder-based aoe. Meaning it should miss less on bosses, and more damage on crits, should be a reasonable boost to our threat capabilities.

3.3.3 patch notes.

Comentado por silkfire

Even if this ability belongs to the Physical school, you still cannot cast it while Silenced. It should actually be a Physical + Nature spell (the so called Naturestrike damage school, hex value 0x9)

The Physical portion is when the Warrior slams his weapon into the ground.
The Nature portion is the percussion wave that radiates from the impact of the weapon.

At least enable the physical portion during a silence, like an instant Overpower (extra attack).

Comentado por Kiliana

Thunder Clap is a waste of mana.

Comentado por DrakeWurrum

Does this also increase casting time?

Comentado por 332158

when I look at this spell in game it just says:
Causes damage to all enemies in the area, and slows their attack speed.
does anyone know how I can make it show me the area range and the damage dealt ? I have looked through the interface options but I cant find it anywhere...

Comentado por 822140

I never understood why a thunderCLAP is a stomp...

Comentado por 332158

does anyone know what other spells share this effect ?

Comentado por 340239

Thunder Clap can proc Crusader, however I believe it will only proc Crusader on your mainhanded weapon.

Comentado por 785821

Possibly, if one is looking for such, a reference to a type of firework produced by Gandalf in preparation for Bilbo and Frodo's birthday celebration. It is also a town in Stephen King's The Dark Tower series; however, considering he has cited The Lord of the Rings as a source of inspiration for these books, it may also be traced back to Gandalf's explosives.

I think it's more likely than I had initially imagined; considering how many references to Tolkien's work exist in the game.

Comentado por drgnslyr

Sorry but.. the new patch says within 0 yards.. does that mean you have to be standing on your opponent?

Comentado por WyvernVJ

New buffs and debuffs map (5.0b)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any Druida (Marca do Indomado), any monk (), and any Paladino (Bênção dos Reis).

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any Sacerdote (Palavra de Poder: Fortitude), any Bruxo (), and any Guerreiro (Brado de Comando).

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Example: Battle Shout
Brought by: Any Cavaleiro da Morte (Berrante do Inverno), any Caçador (Aura de Tiro Certeiro), and any Guerreiro (Brado de Batalha).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any Mago (Inteligência Arcana), any Xamã (Ira Totêmica), and any Bruxo ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Cavaleiro da Mortes, any Ladino (), and Enhancement Xamãs.

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance Druidas (Aura de Luniscante), Shadow Sacerdote (Forma de Sombra), and Elemental Xamãs.

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral Druidas (Líder do Bando), any Caçador (Aura de Tiro Certeiro), and any Mago.

Mastery
Effect: +5 mastery
Brought by: Windwalker monks (), any Paladino (Bênção do Poder), and any Xamã ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any Druida (Fogo Feérico), any Ladino (Expor Armadura), and any Guerreiro (Fender Armadura).

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Cavaleiro da Mortes (Ossos Frágeis and Pestífero de Ébano), Retribution Paladinos (), and Arms and Fury Guerreiros (Golpe Colossal).

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +8% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any Ladino (Mestre Envenenador), and any Bruxo (Maldição dos Elementos).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood Cavaleiro da Mortes (Febre Escarlate), Feral and Guardian Druidas (Surra and ), Brewmaster monks, Protection or Retribution Paladinos (Martelo do Íntegro), and any Guerreiro (Trovoada) (basically any tank).

Slow Casting
Effect: -30% casting speed
Brought by: Any Cavaleiro da Morte (Golpe Necrótico), any Ladino (Veneno Entorpecente), and any Bruxo ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury Guerreiros (Golpe Mortal and ), any Ladino (Veneno Instantâneo), and any Caçador (Peçonha da Viúva).

Will update as new info comes.

Comentado por Thottbot

I personally like Thunder Clap for its speed of use, but the damage and effect it does is lame compared to the amount of rage it takes up. The rage could be better spent on a Battle Shout and Heroic Strike or a Rend or something. Nevertheless, you can slow the attacks of four enemies and damage a bit, so even getting ganged up on doesn't seem so bad, until you die anyway.

Comentado por Thottbot

Use this at jandice in scholo.
it might only affect 4 targets. but you deal physical damage with this.
4 targets instantly gone.

Comentado por Thottbot

Or is this ability useless. I mean it is expensive and does a very small amount of damage. I know i would spend the rage on something way more useful.

Comentado por Thottbot

Why is the thunder clap rank 2 b4 the thunder clap rank 1?

Comentado por Thottbot

I use this all the time, sometimes I don't even know why I'm using it :D. But it has shine lights :D!

Comentado por Thottbot

HAHAHA! He says "Use Wisely" idk WTF he's talkin about...here's what I mean, he has Bloodrage clearly, so that means he's lvl 10..where the hell is his defensive Stance? well, I don't think I've ever seen an NPC his lvl look like that, so I';m guessing that WAS WHAT he had to kill for his warrior quest, never made a Horde warrior. hahaha My bad if it is. lol

Comentado por Thottbot

If you spec Improved Thunder Clap then I heard this actually generates the same amount of threat on 4 targets as if you sundered each of them once. Couple this with the 20% damage (speed) decrease for 30 seconds, and this makes an excellent ability for quickly grabbing the mobs at the beginning of the pull before your other party members start pumping out the DPS and healing. Of course it breaks CC, but any good tank should be able to avoid that anyway.

P.S. Also great against rogues in PVP.

Comentado por Thottbot

I love this ability, I made sure to grab the talets for it. Its awsome for soloing anything or pulling agro in instances. Its a must have for any warrior wanting to go on his own.

Amond
lvl 40 warrior

Comentado por Thottbot

Thunder Clap and Demoralizing Shout are useful to keep aggro from multiple mobs in group play, otherwise the healer gets aggroed and killed.

Comentado por Thottbot

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/razorpunkk/FAKEPIClol.jpg

hehehe I know it's fake, just looks funny doing it to a lvl 33 troll....lmfao

Comentado por Thottbot

This spell is actually pretty useful in dungeons if u have the improved thunder clap talent. It actually does as much dmg as a whirlwind for less rage and only a 4 sec cd as opposed to whirlwind's 10 sec cd...poonage!

Comentado por Thottbot

in my opinion thunder clap is a very good ability, 20 rage is not expensive for an instant attack that affects up to 4 enemies, and with improved thunder clap maxed out the damage it does is doubled, plus u get the 20% atk speed reduction to the mobs, when u use heroic strike you spend rage and you dont generate the rage you would if u just did a normal swing, i've been trying out 2handers, dual wield and shield, i think i kill quicker with dual wield despite the increased miss%, and when i charge in, cast demoralizing shout and thunder clap i already have some advantage, less atack power from enemy and its reduced attack speed, not to mention when thuner clap crits, it does good damage compared to my dual wield white damage and i save heroic strike for last, i like to work on generating rage rather than spend it all at too early by spamming heroic strike, dont forget execute but anyway, we all know if u are a soloing warrior and u are up against more than 2 enemies at the same time if u dont have potions well you'll kill some but end up dead, unless they are too low level for u, well that's enough from me, this is my first comment here on thottbot

Comentado por Thottbot

Easy to underestimate this one because the seenisn't seen in the damage caused/taken numbers flashing about your head. Look at it this way though:

-10% slower attack speed is 10% less damage
Look at how much damage mitigation all that hard -earned armour gets you in a %

Think of it as a 10% bonus to your armour and it seems much more appealing. Throw in the AoE damage and threat and this becomes an excellent excellent ability, if a bit of a rage sink.

Comentado por Thottbot

Improved Thunder Clap Rank 7(with 2H):

246 damage + 20% speed reduction on 4 enemies is way better then the extra 208 dmg the Heroic strike(rank 11) does. Remember, HS uses the white attack, and gives it 208 more damage, thunder clap does not use the regular attack, and still does 246 damage. So even if you're fighting one enemy, thunder clap is better to use then heroic strike.

So, go for 3 talent points in TC, and use that instead of HS. HS uses a white attack, and gives no rage. Thunder clap uses 16 rage, does more damage then HS overall, hurts 4 enemies, slows their attack speed, gives rage when used.

the 2H weapon has a speed between 3.5 and 3.8 most likely, and the CD on TC is 4sec, there is a difference.

208dmg/3.5 =~ 60.0 dmg per sec
246dmg/4.0 =~ 61.5 dmg per sec

As you can see, TC gives more damage per sec. The weapon damage on white attacks remain constant in these two cases. So TC > HS = imho :)

Comentado por Thottbot

this spell can aggro near by enemies :(

Comentado por Thottbot

This skill is essential when tanking.

#1 it AOE aggro's enemies, #2 it reduces melee damage.

When you have people AOE'ing spam TC constantly to keep them on you while also spamming Cleave.

.....also do not forget to throw in the always needed intimidating shout which also draws aggro and mitigates damage.

Comentado por Thottbot

but where do u get it?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Edit: Removing all my posts and stopping payment on premium because of karma trolls, and poor administration.

Edited, Tue May 10 12:02:06 2005

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Trovoada

Trovoada	Nível 85

20 de Raiva

Conjuração instantânea	6 seg de recarga

Atinge os inimigos em um raio de 8 metros, causando 303 de dano e aumentando o intervalo entre os ataques em 20% por 30 sec. Dano aumentado pelo poder de ataque.

Bônus

Trovoada

Intervalo entre ataques aumentado em 20%.
30 segundos restantes

Detalhes do Feitiço

Duração

30 segundos

Escola

Físico

Mecânica

n/d

Tipo de dissipação

n/d

Categoria GCD

Normal

Custo

20 de Raiva

Alcance

0 metros (Self)

Tempo de lançamento

Instantâneo

Recarga

6 segundos

GCD

1.5 segundos

Formulários

Postura de Batalha, Postura de Defesa

Efeito nº1

School Damage (Físico)
Valor:16 (Mod AP:0.228)
Raio:8 metros
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1

Efeito nº2

Apply Aura: Mod Attack Speed %
Valor:-19% (Mod AP:0.228)
Mecânica: Desacelerado
Raio:8 metros
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1

Bandeiras

[Is Ability]
Não pode ser usado quando Transformado
[Do Not Sheath]
Não pode ser Desviado, Defendido ou Bloqueado
Não pode ser refletido
Todos os feitiços são danosos
[Treat as Area Effect]

Trovoada

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