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Comentado por Hyperlynx

I'd like to take this moment to thank the Death Knight class for, at least for a while, focusing the QQ off of us rogues.

Comentado por 83344

Death Knights are a very unique damage-dealing class in that their damage is dealt by both melee abilities and spells!

They're as unique as enhancement shaman! Oh, wait...

Comentado por dreadblood

we start with First Aid because many people lvling other classes wud have first aid at this level, thus for equality we get it (same reason we get a good set of blues for outland)

Comentado por Toldry

So you're a Death Knight that just got to level 80, what now?

Well, the first place you should be looking for in order to get some new gear is these three instances:

And here are two lists of items "sets" you should try to get:

Tanking
DPS

Note that as Frost (No matter whether you're Tanking or DPSing), you need to get two One-handed weapons, while as Blood or Unholy you need to get one Two-handed weapons.

On both lists, the first column is the main "set" while the second one are some alternative items.

Comentado por Archangel76

For a DK, the stat values really depend on your build. In general however....

Strength > Stamina > Hit (until cap.... which depends on if you use 2H or DW) > Expertise (until cap) > armor penetration / crit / haste (depending on your build) > agility

Agility moves up higher for a DK tank in this case. The above is generalized for a DK.
A lot of the dps armor has hit built into it so getting to the hit cap is generally less of an issue. The expertise cap can be a bit trickier. As for hit though, I frequently see a 2H DK with 300+ hit and in some cases, up to 500. In those cases, I'm usually helping them lower their hit rating to try and get other damage producing stats increased. As for stamina, it'll never hurt a DK to have extra stamina as you will be up close and getting personal with mobs. You can't tank if you're dead.... and your dps automatically drops to zero if you die. So..... bear that in mind.

One of the coolest things about DK's is the amount of options you have for dps'ing or tanking. The downside is, you really need to spend a little time planning out a build for effectiveness as you can get considerable dps or performance increases by shifting stats and talents even a slight amount. The Elitist Jerks forums for DK's are a good starting place, but not the end all be all. You really need to have a goal in mind when assembling your gearsets.

(Note: I pulled this from another post I made earlier today. It was relevant to the class in general so I added it here. I made a few additions to reflect the more general nature of this particular discussion)

Comentado por slakhorn

Can someone link the DK starting gear?

Comentado por Archangel76

Again..... magic words.....

The above is generalized for a DK

~~Otherwise..... agree with what you posted.~~ I take that back. I don't agree.

1) With Blood.... ArPen is not always greater than Str. Much of the gear comes with ArPen on it and there are limits to the effectiveness of ArPen. Without an amply amount of strength/attack power, your hits simply aren't going to be all they could be. The two work in tandem. It doesn't hurt to have gear with more armor penetration, but by and large, you'll see blood dps gemming for strength.

2) Unholy depends largely on the build you have and gear. ArPen became more useful with 3.3.3 due to changes to Scourge Strike, but if you have a frost sub-build, you get more out of haste. (Which is made even more interesting in that you've gemmed for Strength and not ArPen)

3) Hit and expertise are critical due to DW. Then Str > ArPen > Crit/Haste/Agi. As for Glyph of Disease versus Icy Touch, Glyph of Disease makes sense with 3.3.3. Glyph of Icy Touch used to be considered the third best, but with changes to Glyph of Disease in 3.3.3, you'll want to run dual disease on Frost dps.

Dps is pretty simple by and large. Kind of a one way street. Increase damage output. You have raw numbers here that will show you if you're more effective or not. The feel of a build is still important as if it feels awkward you'll never perform to the best of your ability. But in general, Strength and ArPen will never hurt for any dps build.

As for tanking............ a generalized stat weight would be.........

Defense (to the soft defense cap, which is presently 540 for raids in WotLK) > Stamina > Expertise > Hit > Strength > Agility > Dodge and/or Parry

Armor, can't really gem for that and any DK tank is going to upgrade for armor when they can. And let's face it, you are going to use plate armor if you're tanking. You can use various trinks as needed to increase armor, but that is situational. Defense plate typically has stats and armor geared for the purpose. You generally won't want to use dps gear unless it does not affect your survival.

Expertise and Hit are important for threat generation. You can get by under hit cap if you are at expertise cap. Main thing here is, managing your threat. If you're not hitting, you are losing threat.

Strength affects attack power which affects everything you do for threat generation. Attack power increases damage output for spells/abilities for DK's so an increase in attack power will equal greater threat. Strength also increases your parry rating. Trust me, if you don't have enough attack power, no amount of hit or expertise will make up for the poor threat generation when you have mages/warlocks cranking out 10k+ hits.

Agility is a good stat if you can find it on gear as it increases your armor, increases dodge, and improves your crit.

After that, dodge and parry can be both valuable. You'll get it on a lot of your armor sets.

Tanking is a balancing act. It's not like dps.
In tanking, you need to balance two things: survival and threat. Survival depends on defense, stamina, armor, agility, dodge, and parry (in that order pretty much). Threat depends on attack power/strength, expertise, and hit. Balancing both sides of this is the trick. A lot of survival stats are great, but if you can't hold threat, you fail as a tank. The flip side of that coin is, if you can't survive the threat you generate, you fail also. You are going to have to tinker with your build and gear to make a tank that plays well for you. You have to find the balance that works for you and your group.

One last caveat......
All of this changes once Cataclysm hits.

Comentado por 296147

I think you should add that some of a Death Knight's abilities become even stronger when diseases are active.

Comentado por 607939

Frost DW DPS w/ Glyph of Icy Touch:
Hit to 5% cap > Str > Expertise/Armor Pen > Crit/Haste > Agi

This was correct with 3.3.2. It is no longer correct with 3.3.3. Please refer to the Elitist Jerks forum where, quote:

Major

With the change to Glyph of Disease, there are really no other reasonable glyph choices. Howling Blast was convenient to use at one time, but since we will need to keep both diseases up at all time, it loses a lot of its value. Glyph of Icy Touch was previously the best 3rd glyph to use, but the changes to GoD have pushed it off the list.

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t83319-frost_dps_3_3_3_will_day_long_remembered/#ixzz0pNTV48nJ

In regards to the following statement:

Tanks generally should prioritize:
Stamina > Armor > Dodge > Expertise > Hit > Agi > Str > Parry

Tanks should prioritize the following:

Defense > Stamina > Armor > Expertise > Hit > Strength > Dodge > Parry > Agility

The argument itself is somewhat pointless, as most tank gear will have more armor than matching dps gear. Additionally, tank gear will usually have defense, dodge, parry, or block on it. Additionally, most tank gear will also have strength and stamina stats native to the gear. As a tank, you want to be aware of the following caps, as they are targets for your effectiveness.

Defense: Currently 540 for uncrittable in Icecrown Citadel and the other Northrend raid instances
Expertise: Currently 26 to eliminate a level 83 mob's ability to dodge, parry, or block an attack
Hit: Currently 276 to eliminate the inherent 8% miss on a level 83 mob

The other poster, Archangel, is correct regarding Strength as being the foundation for a Death Knight's attack power and the impact which it has upon their abilities and threat levels.

I recommend TankSpot for further guidance regarding Death Knight tanking.
TankSpot

Comentado por 581568

Also, each death knight talent tree provides decent synergy -- you will usually have one of each class in 25 mans.

Ebon Plaguebringer; its only applied once, and that means only one Unholy death knight can have it, meaning having two Unholy death knights is very unwise, reducing one's DPS by quite a bit. However, to frost and blood death knights, the extra disease damage applies to their diseases, just like the extra magic damage does to spell casters (and maybe DK's death coil too?). Blood's extra attack power benefits every talent tree, and Frost has some uses, such as increasing a death knight's damage when all their runes are on CD, or even GCD (this is also maximizes the use of the 4 piece t10 set).

Comentado por Evandar21

Thanks for making ~~all~~ most of the huntards reroll :D

Comentado por dreadblood

can I say that ppl who whine that DK's start at 55... we did have to have a char at 55 before that though.. and also, the DK IS A HERO CLASS!, so yeah, they should get some special treatment! (and its not even that much special treatment)

Comentado por batgirlthedk

Hi Hi don't even ask yes i'm a guy. Anyways for the most part since dks when live mine as for the most part always been a tank. At first it was rough the gear at our disposal wasn't the greatest and the talent builds for tanking were kinda bad to say the least. i do like how the talents flow now but it's saddens me i'll have to be a comformist come cata. i really did enjoy having my own spec something unique to me for my use not some copypasta print out. granted blood has self healing but to be honest i prefer frost dw tanking over it immensly becuase for 3 very good reasons

1. very few raids on my server have decently geared enhancment shamans
2. quite a few blood dk for abombs might
3. while i have no rotation anymore i outthreat pallies higher geared then me becuase of just about inf. rp resulting in spaming rune strike and spaming icy touch when killing machine procs coupled with the longer durations for your cds i just prefer frost tanking over blood and i will deeply miss it

before you start calling me a noob mind you i'm a icc most 25 geared tank 4 part sanc tanking gear so yes trust me i know what i'm doing link to my armory page :D http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korialstrasz&cn=Batgirl

EDIT: both my specs are tanking specs i prefer to use my blood spec for soloing more then for live raiding so if you see the axe of culling there instead of my twins i was probably in bwl farming for my thunderfury

Comentado por 364477

You're kidding? Blood spec is going to be the new tank spec? :(

That makes me sad. I was having fun levelling my frosty gnome tank. Level 70 atm! :D I do hope that frost stays a viable tank spec... I know that alot of people already tank sucessfully in blood spec but I really like frost.

I think the thing with DKs is they suffer from Pally/hunter syndrome... the class attracts alot of idiots.

... Oh, and there's alot of haters out there. I got kicked from a PUG just the other night because "OMG every1 knoes dks cant tank lol nub" >>

Comentado por avalanch07

all of these tabs & not a tab for glyphs yet.

Comentado por 106802

People still complaining about DKs? Wow.

Troll Druids should prepare their flame shields next, cause they're all starting at lvl 80, because...they were hiding.

Comentado por 77986

I'm wondering how they're going to handle the lore around starting a DK come Cataclysm.

For most of the races, it can probably just be considered a time capsule. Hey, look! The Lich King! Jump forward to present time...

But how do you retcon in goblins and worgen death knights? These are races joining the fray after the events of Wrath. You can't really say that after all that hullabaloo in Icecrown Citadel we had all this stuff happen with Gilneas and Kezan and somehow we have the Lich King raising the new guys as death knights, even though that can't possibly be the case, given what happened at Icecrown before they even joined, and... my head hurts.

Comentado por 628370

What exactly is it that makes Death Knights "Hero" class?

Comentado por 628276

Its seems that you dont need a lvl 55 anymore . My bro has making a DK on a new serverwithout any of my chars on. And my other bro makes a DK on a server he played but without a lvl 55. Mayby you can make it if you have a lvl 55 or higher on your account. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Comentado por Ultenth

I'm not sure how DK's ability to deal melee and spell damage is "very unique" considering that shamans, paladins, and also technically rogues also do the very same thing. That comment should honestly be deleted.

Also, to the previous poster, what patch exactly DIDN'T Deathknights get nerfed on? They have been beaten down every single patch since they were released and are now a poor shadow of themselves, of course Paladins are still as OP as ever though. Looks like Blizzard really views Pally's as the true "Hero Class".

Comentado por themguyman

ok this it pissing me off when i look for new trinkets for improving my death knight for unholy dps i keep getting items that give spell power. i know that some abilities (like death coil) use spell power but is there really a reason to get any besides a little increased damage from an ability that is not used much. but i digress, i think that blizz should just change it so that the death knight spell damage to scale with attack power or strength cuz its just stupid that a primarily melee dps class should look for spell power for increased damage for one spell.

(srry for the rant just got pissed of filtering through trinkets for the last time)

edit: also in response to @mankiller34 im just going to my profile and clicking find upgrades under the tab and it shows a spell power trinkets as top rating thats the reason for this post not because im looking for spell power trinkets

Edit2: i might have been looking at the procs for teh trinkets looked again and they give a lot of hit

Comentado por 634320

so blood is the tank spec.... i was always told frost was... wierd... ive always tanked frost... it seems like it would be the best for tanking anyway with a nice little AoE going on... if someone doesnt mind, would you reply and tell me the minuses of being a frost tank compared to blood?

Comentado por 545254

The Theory of a Death Knight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvbk5MJNFlI&feature=watch_response

Comentado por 625430

well, nao in this 31point talent trees we're getting nerfed, i think a mass QQ and flame in forums will do great, no? builds are stupidily restrictive: frost dps can't get Necrosis, is you wanna get your disease time increased you'll lose scent of bloos or blood-caked strike. unholy and frost can´t get Thoughness. and wtf? frsot get a 2h talent = MotFW? sudden doom is not longer launching the deathcoil instantly?
while pala is getting more OP: pet, holy power, useful talents.
mass. QQ

Comentado por HandsomeJack

It comes with the territory that many people will think DK's are noobs, simply because getting to 55 was easy (cake now) so everyone and their mothers are coming in with new DK's not doing any research on how to tank or even how to play the classes. Which makes me believe people don't know about either google or youtube, either way people should definitely take a step back and read...even if it hurts. I'm not saying be the highest in arena, but learn a little about your class.

As for DK's themselves, I've tanked heroics no problem, I'm used to being a bear tank (no shield) so it's not a big deal. I've seen many other DK's tank just fine, so in many cases, its who you get, respectively , I 've seen bad Warriors and Paladins tank.

In the end, Haters gonna hate.

Comentado por Dither9

I love playing as a DK, but some really big noobs make the class look terrible. It's not the class that's bad, it's some people that play as it.

Comentado por ShirokenUrsin

Dk tanking can be a hoot, if you have the patience for it. As a Blood specced tank with 1/1 Rune Tap, 3/3 Improved Rune Tap, Vampiric Touch, Black Heart, and Ick-and-Crick's Rotting Thumb, I can weather through almost any healer. 8-9k heals from Death Strike with 2 diseases, 11k heals with Rune Tap, and life saving 24k BH-I&CRT-VB-Raise Dead-Death Pact heals.......and I'm in tier 9-9.25 gear.

Comentado por 643018

Is it just me or does the new rune system means that without TONS of haste, we'll be sitting on TONS of unused global cooldowns? (Unless if the rune recovery increase and the GCD decrease are balanced, so we just have TONS of short unused GCDs). Can anyone in the beta give us a clue to how it works out?

P.S.: The most badass-looking thing i've worn on my dk's head? The starter piece. Yes, the hood. And just to my bad luck, my bro's paladin gets a hood as T10 piece. 2 things have pissed me off, the lack of high-end hoods for us and Frostscythe of Lord Ahune being a staff rather than polearm, meaning we can't equip it. This kind of loot should be uncategorised (see "the fire extinguisher").

Comentado por 632746

A death Knight is not a hero class because he is lvl 55 but rather - he is lvl 55 because he is a hero class - see the difference? Also he is a hero class because he begins as one of the bad guys (Scourge) and because he has one hell of a quest chain that tells you the story by making you take part in it.
Death knight PvE and leveling (imo) is fun and easy when blood ,you can solo most elites hence the self heal.
But very very (20xVery)sadly blood is not that successful in PvP. Why? Blood deals majorly Physical dmg(gets mitigated by armor+resilience) and can hardly take out a large chunk out of plate wearers Hp bar.
Unholy and Frost on the other hand have strong elemental dmg (passes through armor , but still gets reduced by resilience).

Unholy is based on shadow magic diseases and controlling minions.This spec's dps is sorta like 40%from diseases ,ghoul and other passives and 60%from the push of a buton(on-demand abilities like strikes and deathcoil)

Frost is focused on ripping the opponent to shreds by yourself (no minions and minor disease dmg , but with great bonuses to strikes and abilities) . I consider this the more "lone-wolf" playstyle build ,whilst unholy is something like a mastermind. :D

Blood is not as ofensive as frost but it sustains itself alot better( Unholy's 3rd disease and blood's Improoved Death strike are the only ways of making Death strike heal the most , blood will still heal slightly more with improoved blood presence in 3.3.5)

I may not be explaining clearly enough ,if thats the case im sorry , if you want to observe the way blizzard sees it then go to the talent calculator and youll have a provided summary :D thank you for reading

Comentado por Connane

My question is what are the quests and new gear going to look like once cata is released.
I mean come on the lich king is kind of already dead who is the new leader and how are worgens and goblins going to be intergrated in
Sry didn't read other notes if i sound like a repeat :D.

Comentado por 650974

Death Knights do it from behind!...aaa NOT!
...they just call in a ghoul to do it from behind

Comentado por 663911

Hi!

I've got one question, that I couldn't find an answer for on the web...

I have lvl80 Troll Rogue and I want to make a DK from him... What will happen with all the achivements, mounts, pets and professions (JC and Ench both 450), when I will make a DK ?

Thanks

Comentado por 668202

world of warcraft needed more lv 80 tanks so they made the DK

Comentado por 668202

blood tank = 2handed wepon.

frost tank 2 1handed wepons.

Comentado por Omarion1

"I'd listen to the words he'd say
But in his voice i heard DK..."

lol, i had to write this.

Anyway cookie to anyone that gets it.

Comentado por 671399

Hey! I want to know if, on Cataclysm, a Frost Death Knight can use a 2H weapon like "Shadowmourne"because of "Icy Talons" and "Might of The Frozen Wastes (Rank 3)". I think a Frost DK is better with a 2H weapon because he have attack speed grown with 20% and if you attack with a 2H weapon you have a 45% chance to get 10 runic power.

2H weapon + Icy Talons + Improved Icy Talons = Big Damage and rapid attacks (this is my opinion :):):):D)

Comentado por DLuniz

Did they really remove Corpse explosion? Or am I not looking in the right place?

Comentado por 574385

What is everyone's thoughts on the new rune cooldown system? I find myself just standing there more now waiting for them to recharge completely F'ed. Any hints on the new method to the madness?

Comentado por janibanini

Hey anyone Know a good rotasion and talent for Blood tank for for 4.0.1? like to hear form you all....

Comentado por 395813

Patch 4.0.1
Your A Bloody Tank
Bood Changed to tanking spec
Unholy and Frost Changed so as to improve damage,
Frost and Blood presence effects have switched places.

All i will say is thank you Blizzard!
not so sure about new rune system though.....

Comentado por 684982

Rune regen definitely feels too slow. I also find myself just standing there passively tanking in instances. DPS seems right on though (at least it's in accord with the rest of the classes), but oh boy I'd prefer faster rune regen and lower damage on the abilities to even it out.

Comentado por 535546

Dont even consider rolling DW frost when you hit Outlands... With 4.0.1 Blizzard really, really, REALLY gimped the overall performance to ridiculously low levels, due to:

1. You wont get a reliable Threat of Thassarian until lvl 63. (Abilities hit with both weapons)

2. You wont get Howling Blast until lvl 69 (Your only good AoE spell, blood has survivability/bloodboil and Unholy has Imp. DnD/Imp. Diseases.)

3. You are dual-wielding, giving you a very high miss chance. The 20% AS passive merely makes up for this, as opposed to Unholy death knights 15%+ str and ghoul pet / Blood death knights 9% more sta and 6 expertise. (Don't view Icy Talons as a buff unless you are going to use a two-hander.)

(4. As a DW frost DK, consider running away from other DKs, as they will kill you if they don't suck alot. (Forget DK vs DK duels))

5. Unless you buy the pretty crappy axes/swords for ~ 35g each, you wont get an useful weapon until atleast after HFP. The weapons mentioned requires you to be honored with HH/Thrallmar (Weapons? What weapons?)

6. You have the worst overall survivability of all the speccs, due to not having a single straightly defensive ability / talent. (Chillblains Could be considered defensive, but do you always have the room to kite things around?)

And finally, a question, how does Icy Talons stack with Improved Icy Talons?

(The many edits were made during the writing of this post.)

Comentado por 696320

Okay, need a little help for OWNAGE.... I am a Unholy DK with Frost as my other spec.... With an Unholy Spec was is a great rotation to have the most damage, because right now I have no Idea and I am only getting 3.5K with a 4.8K gear score. I have some great pieces....

Same goes for the Frost spec... need an awesome rotation... thanks for your help!

Frostess - Onyxia

Comentado por Killmekos

DK's were supposed to be the generals of the Scourge, for some reason i can't imagine them being forced to kill lvl 1-5 boars/wolves/tigers/plainstriders/scorpids >.>, Oh and gathering apples too

Comentado por nintendorichard

Death Knights now begin with a Scourgestone.

Comentado por rogenburger

this is the best looking gear for a dk

Comentado por Lokis

So whos agrreing with me that blizzard destroyed the DK? destroyed my playstyle with the death knight, im so pissed, Im not moving to Cataclysm.
First of all: Blood talent was the highest DPS tree with a potential to survivability. while frost would mostly minimize dmg taken and Unholy be more of an AoE assist. now what do they do? they make all the new DPS have not much survivability and the now tank has skills to heal him, BUT WHAT FOR IF HE ALREADY MINIMIZES THE DMG? though his dmg now isnt so high.
Blizzard should focus not on making a tank tree and DPS tree and all that, but making many ways for creative playstyles, and cataclysm just did the opposite.

Comentado por themguyman

has any one else noticed the server lack of major glyphs for unholy death knights

Comentado por 629499

Okay! Having some thoughts on my Frost PvP. I've got my frost tree tailored to my needs and wants and desires, but i can't decide on whether or not to get Resilient Infection Talent, so that way i get more runes from howling blast(glyphed) thus more runic power. However that's not a constant and reliable source... healers may decide not to dispell.

OR

To go for Scent Of Blood. In PvP i'm getting hit almost constantly, so there's a very high chance of being able to keep that up with 2 points into the talent. With this talent i'll be able to Frost Strike more which means i MAY be able to use Howling Blast more.

Help please?

Comentado por gremlinoutcast

I dont know how people can complain about DK tanking changes. Imho it has only been changed for the better. The survivability has been raised, the threat is better and even though it seems to lack the AoE we used to have, if used right, there wont be a need for DnD to be down every 10 seconds. I'm perfectly happy with the changes.

My favorite thing about it all... Blood Shield. It is an awesome tool for any tank and makes the healer's job a bit simpler, granted that is if the tank knows what they are doing.

Comentado por 749265

If you make a DK character, does it overwrite your original character?

Comentado por 753343

i love dks

Comentado por 685268

Hey, I just recently made a Worgen DK and while I was doing the final quest from the Lich King, the one where you mount up on the frost wyrm, something really weird happened. My worgen character has been doing the /roar sound effect and motion since I mounted up on the frost wyrm and I was curious to see if anybody else has been having this problem. Like, does anyone know if it's a glitch or if Blizzard actually created it to do that? Either way, I'm about ready to gouge my eardrums out because, while it was ok for the first few roars, it gets tiring to hear every 3 seconds (literally). So, yea, any information would be of great appriciation. Thank you.

Comentado por 758336

I dont like the new DK talents i miss blood dps

Comentado por 758604

I'm an unholy DK and am confused as to what stats I need to be focusing on. With the new gear I dont know if I should be picking mastery over crit and when changing out gear should I make sure my DPS is going up above all or make sure my strength and other stats are increasing. Please help, I'm lost. Thank you!

Comentado por 759832

i have a lvl 60 DK and i was wondering what good runeforge i should use. it is a tank. ty

Comentado por 619615

I have a question about unholy dks (feel free to downrate me if already answered) can unholy dks use 2 1 handers or do they have to use a 2 hander?

Comentado por 619933

seriously i hate it when ppl complain if u dont like the new update then dont be a dk there are 9 other classes to play Besides theres too much dks in wow already

Comentado por 719302

to make this Death knight truly a force to be reckoned with what is a good armor set for him? I just started out this death knight and am truly happy to have him please if you have any advice let me know what kind of armor set I should put on this charcter email me at robonuts11@yahoo.com thanks for your time

Dave

Comentado por 788240

the name of "Death Knight" is awesome anyways arthas is death knight right?and why dk class isnt same skill of arthas?im just curious

Comentado por 794291

I love my DK, I have long been a believer that just to keep with the lore, Blizz should have made the player creating the DK, sacrifice at Toon at the 55+ level. I believe that would have filtered out a bunch of the crappy DK players, and only the players really wanting a DK to make them. As far as the New Talent Tree's. I like the simplification, however wished they had stayed with the tradition Frost as the Tanking Spec, or No Specific Tank spec at all.

Comentado por 715857

I think we should all kill Arthas when we pretend to help him as a deathknight and stab him in the back and burn his body to get a early kingslayer title Shazam!

(Just making a weird idea)

Comentado por 800942

I certainly enjoyed having 3 tank trees at my disposal, but moving tanking to one tree has certainly simplified things.

Unfortunately there are way too many bad DK's that end up creating the stigma that the rest of us are sub-par tanks.

Comentado por jaypaw

I think that in cata they should of added another class at lvl 60 so WotLK and Cata are equal

Comentado por guatafu

Suffer well brother.

Comentado por 537632

is it possible to bug frost dk duel wield with unholy presence ? i do not stack haste i have not much has but i have over 70% unbuffed and when a shammy pops hero and my trinkets proc i get around 137% haste its insane .

Comentado por 813085

how to play a death knight :

apply face to keyboard.

Comentado por 781154

you know, i dont mind the whole dk thing people in my guild hate them but personaly like them. i just made one unholy speced, pretty nice if u ask me.

Comentado por Nuzzle

My favorite thing about my deathknight is the flashy abilitys that make him alot more fun to play then my other characters

Comentado por 649096

I think Death Knigh is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills people and stuff and doesn’t afraid of Lich King.

Comentado por dresdor

Most of the hate aimed at DKs is due to the smaller levelling requirements for the class. Essentially, it is the end-game tank that requires the least amount of time to get to max level. Most people assume that also means players don't get enough time to figure out how to tank with it, and that is, sadly, more often true than not.

Comentado por snowbener

Well DK have to go through the same as other classes, and with those heirlooms is lvling from 1-60 easy and fast as hell people can do it in 3 days gaming time, and in outland gear is coming closer to heirlooms so people shouldn't complain so much cause DK's are playing only the harder part of lvling.

and they do have some very nice skills like dark simulacrum and the fact that they are the second class who can battle ress what is very nice in raiding. If you miss a druid, you would miss a vital class now you got 2 options (same as shaman and mage with bloodlust/heroism/timewarp).

So just dont be hard for them cause they can be very fun and usefull :)

Comentado por narrat0r

Death Knights have very short cooldowns on pretty much all of their abilities, so mapping certain attack spells to Q, E, R, D, or C on your keyboard while playing as a DK pretty much turns WoW into an Action-RPG.

Comentado por Rizzatto

Here's a question: What is are good professions for dk's to take? They have to deal with the added wrinkle of being nearly a level 60 without any points in any professions (other than first aid). Any professions that can help compensate for this?

Comentado por Connane

Can someone pls put the level 70 pvp set for deathknights in there set gear list its driving me bonkers : /

Comentado por Tylersmith112

I was doing the starting quests once and i just remeberd something that scared me sooooo much for some reason. During the lights hope chapel fight scene i hit the NE and 666 and she fainted. O.O

Comentado por Helenek

Can anyone tell me were the closest mailbox in the DK starter-area is?

Comentado por 853471

What's better Death Knight,R Paladin or Warrior ?

Comentado por Rapperb

Ok,
I have few questions
Ppl Let's talk about dk's dps

Strength > Hit to cap 8% > Haste > Mastery > Expertise to cap > Crit > Agility

now I m really curious into haste and mastery..is there any max cap? or should i just reforged them or gem it to reach as max points as i can?

Coz i saw this Each point of mastery increase shadow dmg..let say i wanna add more point for this .. what is the max cap?

My unholy dk is pulling 10k now in heroic dungeon.
Please check my armory here http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/barthilas/Dkamanda/advanced

I need to prepare before I go fireland raid.. So i need some helps...is there any better rotation which will pull more than 10k dmg?

My current rotation go like this
Single Target ; disease > DT > DnD > SS > SS > BS > FTS > SS > SS > SS > HOW
Multi Target ; disease > Pestilence > BB > DT > DnD > SS > SS > BS > FTS > SS > SS > SS > HOW

I shoot DC whenever it is avaiable

thank

Comentado por Karsciyin

Death Knights get a lot of disrespect from players for a couple of reasons.

One: resentment at the fact they start at level 55 from the get-go, and will be introduced into the main playing realm at 58. Some players (in particular the 'elitist' ones) believe you should have 'earned' your level through days of grinding, and that this is 'cheating' (oh noes). Others have concerns about the fighting/playing prowess of Death Knights, since the abilities are introduced almost all at once rather than periodically, limiting the practice or the experience the player has to set a good rotation.

Two: the Death Knight class is 'unlocked' from possessing a high-level toon - but that toon can be any race, any class, any spec. This can lead to DPSs or healers making Death Knights - a class they have yet to fully learn - and getting introduced to tanking at a stage where other classes are already 'settled' into their roles, performing at a sub-par level, comparatively. And many will take this opportunity to start tanking, since tanks generally have the shortest dungeon queues. Players that are already familiar with tanking and what it entails are still likely to encounter flak and poor expectations because of this, so get ready to prove the naysayers wrong!

However, Death Knights are still a powerful, versatile yet resilient, and fun class to play - they just get a lot of QQ from other players. To believe they are weak, underpowered, or 'squishy' would be a mistake.
...and at the very least, you could make one only to turn it into a fast-made profession slave...

EDIT: As an additional addendum, I want to to add the point that no, Death Knights are not overpowered, either. Merely being beaten by a player of any given class does not automatically make said class overpowered, and such claims are generally grouped with the above mentioned QQ.

Comentado por andypoop20

Deathknights aren't as OP as you think

Comentado por greathoudini

Can't wait till MoP, I would love to use that asphyxiate ability

Comentado por Roayal

Also Teron Gorefiend was a death knight. I think he was using the unholy tree =)

Comentado por 627921

my favorite class :)

Comentado por Ksareon

Death knight is a very good class.I play one but if your spec is blood death knights are overpowered. :D

Comentado por 911362

The thing i hate the most of WoW... Blood Elf DK /spit, but its really hard to beat em as a warrior

Comentado por 909277

ok so i have a question can DKs get regular mounts like flying carpets?

Comentado por 904441

You can only create 1 DK per realm but there isn't any restrictions for Realm Change

Comentado por 904441

It would be nice if u could do another kind of the races, like Broken Draenei or Iron Dwarves, Leper Gnomes, Mag'hars...

Comentado por jhoms

Hi everyone.. I have a DK tank 85, im tanking using dual weapons both a tanking 1 hand weapon Mace of Transformed Bone & Bloodlord's Protector they have STR , STA , parry and dodge rating + and my runeforge is Rune of the Nerubian Carapace.
Why did i use dual weapons while tanking? Because i cant find 2 hand weapons that have parry or dodge + for tanking.
Now I dont understand why some people are saying DK tank dont use 1 hand weapons you are a bad tank if you do that. Mostly they said i will be more squishee.
I dont understand why, but i thought i been tanking better with dual , maybe im not noticing anything bad. Some said because you only had 30% buffs from the group thats why you thought your a good to tank. Dual wielders DK tank are not good.
I dont really understand why is it not good guys, good DK tanks please explain this.

Comentado por Misy

There is a mailbox close to DK startig zone, but you still have to do 10 quests before you can reach it. Once you reach q called "The Scarlet Harvest" you will have the option to use a Scourge Gryphon which will take you down the tower. Once you are down go straight forward. When you open your map you can see in upper part of the map a cave, to it's right a tower and to the left 3 houses up from a farm. The mail is placed in north of the farm, to the right of the southest house. Hope this is helpful.

Comentado por 915524

An interesting idea for Death Knights during Mists of Pandaria?
Be able to "tame" (within reason) your own undead skin for use as a pet. heh?

Comentado por Evilhristo

jhoms, when you use dual weapons make sure your armors have a haste rating and you can use a rune of razorice or rune of lichbane because dual weapons are weaker than Two-handed weapons but are faster, because of that you need more haste rating, and with that runes you can add some special damage.

EDIT: I use dual weapons emblazoned with rune of razorice and my armors are with haste rating.

Sorry for my english.

....and who says that the Dual wielders DK tank are not good?

Comentado por 957168

Am I the only one who still thinks it's a bit weird they didn't choose frost to be the tanking tree? I mean I see why they chose blood but it's just a thought that's always been on my mind.

Comentado por 959799

love DKs

Comentado por Kalanch

Death (Darth?) Knights are the Sith of Azeroth.

Comentado por 970662

i love the death knights

Comentado por 619202

Till now DKs traditionally have been transforming following the next scheme:

Start of the expansion: Death Knight - brings you a death itself. It's unstoppable untill killed. You don't want it even to spot you.
In the midst of expansion: Nerf Knight - Not so dreadful. You can kill him alone.
Later patches: Nerfer Knight. More nerfs. Not a serious opponent, you can safely focus someone else.
End of the expansion: Dead Knight - squishy, weak, pathetic. Oh look, it's dead!

Considering that Blood is not a PVP spec.

Comentado por 928054

Are runeforges begin removed/changed, i do not see them anywhere?

Comentado por sandreid87

@KingArthis Actually if you played WC2 you would know that DKs originally were more like Mages or Warlocks, than they were in WC3. The Arthas-like DK you know in WC3 is NOTHING like the lich-like DKs from WC2. They ride around on a horse, which would look mostly like the Forsaken's Skeleton Horse, with a long cloak and a really creeping voice, cast spells left and right. Spells like Whirlwind (No not the Warrior version from WoW, it was an actual whirlwind!), raise the dead, give units haste, and more. With no ability to just autoattack, these units were pretty useless without their mana.

So yeah, nothing like the DKs in WoW now. I can only say I prefered the original version. This is just one of many things Blizzard have changed in the WarCraft lore over the years. The reason why it doesn't work, is because they keep changing the past, instead of making the present/future make sense with the current past.

Wiki:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_(Warcraft_II)

(Just copy the line to get the the WC2 DK wíki site)

Sound files:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMLfaFJZcso

"I'M ALIVE!"

Comentado por 982552

Winged Steed of the Ebon Blade is 950g due to rep with Knights of Ebon Blade...

Comentado por 966344

Seriously, this class is the best (For me)

I have played Tauren Warrior PRETBC and a Undead Warlock in TBC.
With the fair pauses in between playing time may i add.
Anyways, those two classes were absolutely enjoyable but i wanted a mix! I wanted a dark warrior!
So in WOTLK when i heard WCIII topper the Death Knight was introduced. I just could not wait to play it.

... My warlock and warrior was never heard of again.
This class has the darkest feeling to it. I chose to be a Tauren. (Because, hey Death Grip + Stun = Awesome)
And it has never disappointed me. I always had a weak for specs that aren't in use that often because of the
surprise value. So i basically was a stealth cow in frost spec just to get all the DPS goodies. then switched to tanking spec in order to get the Hybrid feeling i was so used too. (this was in cataclysm)

..BEST CHOICE EVER.
I can not stress this enough, Death Knight is not like a warrior where you absolutely need a certain stat or otherwise you are doomed. No my friends, Death Knights, are, ABSOLUTE BEAASTSSSS.. Blood, Frost who the %^&* cares. If you wanna go hybrid you MUST ^&*!ING DO IT, since you cannot go hybrid by the use of talent points anymore.

I am so happy with this Class, i currently am taking a break from wow. And this might very well be my last message because I disagree on some of the choices of blizzard (Nothing of your worries, personal choice) but as i was playing this class with a long history of dark magic and melee skills behind me. I can, for sure tell you that it is absolutely freaking beast. Now i will not tell my spec or choices that i made inside my character to be able to say this, what i will tell you is that if you keep experimenting, and you have the vision to grab certain items as you journey, the choices are immense. Really really amazing class with almost endless possibilities PVP/PVE wise. And it has become my main class very, very fast.

Now sure there are those that disagree with me out of pure hatred for this NEWB class. And sure with the introduction of monks the same thing will happen.And yes a lot of people are completely clueless with death knights. And yes you can have your own opinion and cry as much as you so desire too.

All i am saying is that Death Knights hunger for your tears.
That one little misstep you made, boom countered and consumed.

YOUR TEARS ARE SO DELICIOUSLY SALTY IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

Comentado por 928054

How much dps does one lose by reforging crit>mastery w/o gurth as uh?, i ask, because i do not yet have to sets of dps gear, and enjoy playing frost DW,& UH

Comentado por Wolfgenerator

On my server

There are

58 Cavaleiro da Mortes everywhere

Mostly

Worgen Dks

It be

Really annoying mon

Comentado por Kossel

Could someone make a PvP Guide for DK's a Unholy/Blood Set-up. I have been playing Blood forever i'd honestly say im about average PvP'er with my Blood DK. Im just looking for a new set-up that will help me improve. Thanks.

Comentado por Thesneaker

The Death Knight is best class ever

Comentado por 1010488

Dks are cool for arenas and stuff

Comentado por 1014100

which is the most powerfull and the most simple talent?because I want the most powerfull,but I don't want to have a lot of skills...

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