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Comentado por Fathomable

Has this skill been nerfed in the latest patch?
In the current talentree the talent says as follow:
Blasts the target with Holy energy, causing 204 to 220 Holy damage to an enemy, or 204 to 220 healing to an ally.

The damage does not differ from the healing and the amount has been severly reduced. My rank 4 takes 452 to 488 instead of wowheads 614 to 664.
Did they nerf the damage as the lowered cooldown made it to good?

Comentado por 169060

Is holy shock can hit any kind of foe? even if its not undead? didnt try to any other target than undead..just wanna know..

Comentado por 70784

So this spell doesn't cost any mana?

Comentado por 254070

? where do i learn rank 1? i've never heard of the spell untill lvl 48... i went to the trainer as 48 and it say i couldnt learn rank 2 of this spell ?

Comentado por 318556

I wonder if it works on Undead forsaken if it does work on them it will be a annoying spell against them it is a instant cast and does good damage its also good for dungeons like Silverpine Forest

Comentado por 144237

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=20261 is a good spell add to add intellect for extra mana for this spell... it would probably be useful if u had also https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=20216, https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=20361, /https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=25829, https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=31841, and https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=53576 are all good synergies imo ( synergies are something that helps...like something that aids you....) =D

Comentado por 375228

well can someone tell me where i can learn holy shock i cant learn it with my polly trainer an its @#$%in me off and im lvl 46 and at lvl 48 i get rank 2

Comentado por 552088

I turned level 48 with my human pally and see that I missed a quest for holy shock... I see that because I cannot train for holy shock rank 2. does anyone know where to get this? please help.

Comentado por dreadblood

if you had read the comments above you you would see that its a talent no questy questy needed!

Comentado por Thottbot

all i wanna know is do any other pally recommend this ranged attack ?

Comentado por Thottbot

Where is holy shock rank 1? I have never learned it and I only have the option to learn rank 2 at 48, but there is no rank 1 to learn? Anyone else have this problem?

Comentado por Thottbot

Is Holy Shock: Rank 2 learnt from a trainer or gotten from the talent tree?

Comentado por Thottbot

Listen. You have to get it from the Holy talent tree by spending 30 points in Holy. This is then considered "Rank 1." There after you can learn ranks 2 and 3 from trainers as you continue to level. And yes I would recommend it highly. Even if it's not the greatest attack it makes for a great last second instant heal

Saaconse lvl 60 pally Dragonblight

Comentado por Thottbot

Mana reduced. I don't recall a difference with the previous patch. It was promised. It is already and always a spell with a '30 seconds' cooldown. This and that and again that other.

Make the range 30", or 40" to concurr with Holy light, bury if necessary for balance sake, the added healing effect 'option', this is a shock. Holy Paladins are shockers, not clerics or priests.

Now I would be pleased when I will get it, otherwise it makes us, holy paladins, the poor parents of the priest. (without a fear immunity spell, or real talent for it, not even going here into an obvious class ability)

The spell rocks otherwise.

Comentado por Thottbot

1.damn cooldown! i hate the fact that i have to w8 for 30sec to use it again , blizz should have do it like 15 sec .
2.u get the 3rank of holy shock at lvl 56 so it aint right. many of classes get there good "spells" at lvl 60 and much more powerful so i hope at the next patch we will get a new rank with much more dmg and less cooldown

Comentado por Thottbot

I have a 22 mage on the horde side, and some Paladin (at least lvl 40+, he had a mount) saw me in Hillsbrad and chased me from HB Feilds all the way to Tarren Mill. He didn't even hit me once. Just popped on a mana sheild and kept blinking and frost nova-ing (suprsingly he was rooted once). What i'm trying to get at is, I would've been dead if he had a ranged attack. Rank 1 would've easily takin out half my health. So this will probably be a great benefit for Pallys against people who are masters at kiting from a battle. I would suggest getting it. Prusuit of justice is OK but it will take a while for you to catch up with them (depending the class and if they have speed potion). And hammer of justice (if that's what it's called) would be a better move if you wanted to finish someone off. Also, this would be a wonderful way to pull a small bit of a mob at a time. Instead of running into it.

Comentado por Thottbot

Once I realized how talents actually work (at lvl 42, duh!), I had to go unlearn and learn them all over again, just to make sure I get my Holy Shock asap. I am loving this spell! A 30 sec. cooldown generally lets you hit the same mob/player more than once in a battle; combined with Divine Favor, it deals around 360-400 dmg. Sweet deal.

I used to hate it when ppl I am fighting in PvP keep running away from me (especially Shammies for some reason) while doing ranged damage, but guess what - now I have something to get them with. I (lvl 42 Pala) beat a lvl 47 Troll Shaman yesterday 1 on 1 in PvP easy (also, this duel helped me realize how poor Shaman's self-healing actually is). I was surprised with myself!

Comentado por Thottbot

Holy Shock might be good but its uselesss against rogues getting hit 200+ each attack while just spamming SoR? Ull be dead before u can use the 3rd one.Ull need some volleys of dmg lik CS.

RETRIB FTW

Comentado por Thottbot

Any palli worth his salt should be able to. If you think about it, paladins are the perfect class to take rogues in pvp.

1) Plate armour! Your crazy rogue DPS is not that amazing when 50% of it is ignored now is it?

2) Ret aura. Even if you are not a ret palli, this will shred the HP of any rogue you are fighting.

3) Self-healing. "Oh noes! I am down to 1/2 health!" One holy light brings you back up to full in 2.5 seconds. Rogues cannot compete with this.

4) Consecration. Half the time you can catch them with this, breaking stealth so that they loose their massive ambush crit.

5) Perception/stoneskin. (alli pallis only.) Both two awesome anti-rogue abilities. Better stealth detection for humans, and 8 second poinson/bleed/disease immunity for dwarves.

6) Holy shock/repentence/avenger's shield. Save this for when the rogue has popped sprint to run in fear from you. Each talent tree has a way of finishing that pesky rogue off as he tries to flee. Hammer of Wrath finishes them off if your first spell didn't. (Repentence doesn't actually deal damage, but it lets you get close and crusader strike, and judge justice to break sprint so they can't flee anymore.)

7) Bubble. Ok, so maybe the rogue got the drop on you and is stun locking you. Bubble out of it and start laying the beat down.

Rogue killing aside, on the note of holy shock, it makes for a very good instant cast heal, especially if the MT is about to die, this can keep him alive for long enough that someone else's healing spell just might have time to take effect and heal them up by a large amount. Although Holy shock won't heal for a lot, the fact that it is an instant cast gives pallis our only instant heal other than LoH.(##RESPBREAK##)272##DELIM##Uchur##DELIM##

Comentado por Thottbot

really now thats not even close to what is going to happen...stunlock if you bubble out of a stunlock just to unload "dmg" on the rogue you will die. "Bubble,stun bom bom bom rogue down to 23% evasion vs a good pally, or simply sprint/vanish vs a %^&*ty one. when bubble is out vanish/blind/sprint(sap) bandage and just completly destroy the paladin, 2.5 sec heals....wounding poison+kick/gouge/ks
to easily countered.
ez mode win?
1:cs+hemo/sinister/backstab End with expose+gouge run away and enter stealth...
2: Stealth+Sprint cs+hemo/sinister/backstab etc. gouge...ks end his life

Edit : Oh and btw sorry if you were talking about a rogue who just rightclick you and autohit your pro strategy might work.

Hate it when people try to describe how they beat different classes..in 99% of the case, it's not going to turn out the way you all describe it.

my classes.
paladin
warrior
rogue
shaman
mage
priest
druid
warlock

all 60 exept 2 warrior and a rogue wich is 70...
No lvling isen't an issue got the first to 70 in 4 days others took longer.

but every class CAN beat all the other classes just that some have advantages

EZ MODE CLASSES.

Shadow : priest
"Felguard" warlock
Btw things have changed in tbc so i would have to add..

Frost mage..great fun ez mode as hell vs probably most classes only trouble if you ask me is a warlock though not that hard tbh, or maybe a really good AND good geared daggger rogue.

Frostnova : icelance icelance..pet frostnova!, icelance,icelance fireblast
about 4 buttons to mash one dead. Combine that with ap,trinket.

Comentado por Thottbot

I really want to duel you with my shadow priest. Paladins are easy as pie.

Comentado por Thottbot

Hmm,rogues,im a 58 pally,prot build,fighted rogues like 200 and more times,never loose,even some 5+ lvl ppl.So rogues kill pally ez?Khm,nope.

Warriors? Kill them ez as pie.

And i have 1 q about tankig pala/warr. I always get more agro then warr.And always can take more dmg then them.so why are warr better tanks then prot pala?

Comentado por Thottbot

lol paladins own rogues. there is no question about it.

Comentado por Thottbot

You're dumb.
Paladin would own a rogue easy.
A paladin can own about every class, with their many spells/moves/auras to counter pretty much everyone elses. There's no way you can say a paladin sucks, or a paladin cant own a rogue.
Its about how you play.

Rogues are pussy nubs anyway.

Comentado por Thottbot

dont mock rouges, each class has its advantages and weaknesses, palidins dont rule, no class does, its the players that rule, like me :]

Comentado por Thottbot

for noobs who made first response pallies get ranged attacls... but at higher lvls

1. hammer of wrath

2.(for full protection pallies only) avengers sheild talent attack

Comentado por Thottbot

its ok, but they're are much better moves. Holy light can heal, and hammer of wrath is ranged. So really just a cheap heal/ranged.

Comentado por Thottbot

Paladins aren't meant for any particular role. They're not designed solely to fight one class, or to counter one particular threat. They're best at nothing, but good at everything. Admittedly, Blizzard made a few mistakes on the Retribution tree, but that should be fixed soon.

As far as Rogues v. Paladins, it's like apples and cats. They, like all classes, are each good against different things. Mages, for example, are a good counter to rogues, with their blinks and their novas and such.

Meanwhile, in some ways, Rogues can counter Mages, with Kick and stealth.

And in some ways, Paladins can counter rogues, with their healing spells and their Consecration. And can be countered with sap and stealth.

We're all quite good at what we do. It's just that some of us do different things.

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a lvl 52 Paladin

In battle i used Unleash Seal of light on my enemy granting me
health on around 50% of my hits

I Have Blessing of wisdom on and use seal of wisdom.

Then as im attacking a mod i use this Holy Shock over and over
with Concetration and after the battle i still have full health
and nealy full mana by the time i get to the next mob im back to full.

It Kills mobs and does enough damage to make players be carful of u. Works Great Try it

Comentado por Allakhazam

ive been full holy, full ret and full prot and i have to say, full holy (with seal of command) is a really good build, especially for pvp

heres why:

holy tree pallys have MORE dps than the other 2 trees because of divine strength, have MORE mana and have the instant ranged 400dmg (full rank) spell which is an awesome finishing spell in pvp or if theyre running away

the only 2 talents i really miss is reckoning from potection tree and conviction from retribution tree, but ill live =D

oh and just because im holy tree doesnt mean im a healer. theres almost NO difference in healing abilities of different tree'd pallys, its all in the gear. the only useful healing talent is divine favour (linked with illumination) which gives you a critical heal every 2mins which costs zero mana - which is the PERFECT spell to use when shielded because 1 heal and you're full health and still have up to 6 seconds of invincibility left to fight with =P

Comentado por Allakhazam

Iam full Retri, and crusader strike OWNES! thats such a good spell!

Comentado por Allakhazam

I was going to ask the same question as Reeny but looked at Talents a little more closely and discovered, for the first time, that each page (Holy, Prot. & Retri.) will scroll down.

Holy Shock is at the bottom of the Holy page, and requires 30 points of Holy talents.

Edited, Sat Jun 4 07:50:32 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is a very strange question but how or where do I get holy shock level 1?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Can this be cast while running? Or moving at all.

<edit>

It looks like it's an instant cast so you should be able to cast it while moving. Of course a 30 second cool down sucks but at least it gives us one almost range attack that will work against everything.

Edited, Tue Feb 1 13:35:09 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

It's really cool spell and it looks like the spell of the priest like a slash of light energy
and yes it's intant...but the talent tree doesn't look really cool (I'm retribution).

Comentado por Allakhazam

can anybody tell me where to find "holy shock"...

Comentado por Allakhazam

I see that you can get this at lvl 40, but is there a lvl 60 version of this spell. I have been looking around, but i guess its either not there or i am looking in the wrong places.

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