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Comentado por 3118

This is really the staple of the 41 point talent prot warriors. Low rage cost. Low cooldown makes this a marvel everywhere.

Comentado por 5409

Seems to either have a very high full duration resist rate or odd timer.
Edit:
If used after charge and I imagine intercept it will only last I think 2.5-3 seconds. You must wait ?20? seconds after either of them to get the full 5 second timer. Personally I think that is a little broken considering how imperfect charge mechanics are and the fact that the combined duration of using the two effects right after is still less than the time of the ability alone.

Not sure the exact time...I had read 15 seconds, but charge cooldown is 15 sec but when charge is ready there is still diminishing returns on Concussion blow. So 20 s right now is a guess.

Comentado por 52231

do you have to be in def stance for this...can't remember now.

Comentado por 78824

"This isn't what the warrior class is about"

I would of agreed with you about 1 expansion, and about a dozen or more patches ago, but with added changes from TBC with slot gear, and changes to many of the talent trees you can easily see certain combinations being made just by combining a few talents, gems, and gear. In this case with the warrior, there always been a possibility, but been restricted from making a Stun lock warrior. You have Intercept, Charge, Concussion Blow, 5/5 talent Mace Specialty, Revenge, Intimidating Shout (fear), War stomp (Tauren), Maces with stun capability, and lastly Brutal Earthstorm Diamond. With all these things it rather sad that you are limited to play a certain way due to the fact that there CD are all basically on the same timer.

Comentado por Ledynn

This ability is mainly for a stun combo on a healer with little health left, for example. If u and a paladin is doing 2v2, u can first use Concussion blow on the healer (when he is under 50%, to get him here u can use pummle and intercept). Just before the stun is about to expire, the paladin comes in with another stun that lasts for 6 seconds (Hammer of Justice), the healer will not be able to survive this without trinket or bubble. If the healer use this, just do this over again, because the cooldown on Concussion blow and Hammer of justice is pretty much the same and trinket and bubble has 2 or more min cd.

Comentado por 64664

I like this skill a lot, especially when used on casters that can heal themselves. With two casters that can heal eachother (like some Ogre Mystics) you can Shield Bash and CD the other, this way they both can't heal. Hurray!

In addition it can also be used as a subsitute for Taunt. If Taunt is not up and a vulnerable player is getting bashed by a mob inside an instance you can just CD it to:
1) Make it stop moving
2) Wait for ur taunt
3) Getting aggro back

Comentado por 42886

I can confirm that it currently has diminishing returns in PvE on a timer shared by at least Charge. When charging a mob and slightly later using Concussion Blow the stun only lasted about 2s (presumably 2.5s as described in the wowwiki article referenced earlier).

Comentado por 98941

My favourite use for this skill is multi-tanking in 5-mans - I will use this skill on the primary (skull) and build as much aggro as fast as possible (which is an easy 3 yellow hits - devestate, SS, revenge in that order usually) on the secondary targets, then taunt at the end of the stun on primary. Such a good start to a pull!

Comentado por 161777

this ability is affected with by diminishing return s in pve even if u are not the 1 who stuned the target previously:( i usually ignore thet fact since in the game it s the only thing u can use but on forums i would like 2 say thet it sucks

Comentado por 80660

While it may sound off, in WotLK this may become a common sight in arena PvP. While going up the tree to get this you'll also probably pick up +15% chance to crit with heroic strike and cleave plus, last stand which is nothing to scoff at.

It sounds like it might be worth the points out of fury in a standard arms/fury PvP spec.

Comentado por 73142

It doesn't seem like anyone mentioned that Concussion Blow will do the damage regardless if the mob is immune to the stun effect. For those who wonder, it does. Wouldn't be much of a change considering how it does little in raids now as it is.

Comentado por 130410

Since patch 3.0, this skill packs quite a punch (does damage depending on your AP). In my dps gear with 2300~ish AP unbuffed, I've seen CB crit for 5300, which is more than what bloodthirst is capable of (Yes, prot is the new dps tree). Since AP is now THE threat stat, and almost every tanking piece has a decent amount of strength, this skill is very useful for threat management, and should basically be used on every pop (even if the target is immune to stun).

Comentado por 231313

In the current patch 3.0.2(9056), Concussion Blow does not use up the charge of recklessness therefore it does not 100% crit when using recklessness.

Comentado por Myraxa

Once 3.02 hit, the global cooldown seems to go twice as fast after the use of concussion blow.

Comentado por 227062

to me using this after u have just charged is pointless but if u had it goin chargee, rend, hamstring, sunder armor, concussion blow, etc. would work, that it what i usually do...

Comentado por 228334

The new Concussion as compared to the previous version has its cooldown decreased from 45 seconds to 30 seconds and now deals damage equal to 75% of AP.

I have tested this with my King's Defender. It deals more damage and generates more threat than Devastate.

Devastate is already a skill many warrior tanks use only when Shield Slam, Shield Bash(this skill used to generate a lot of threat, not sure if it is still the same) and Revenge is on cooldown.

Since bosses cannot be stunned, the changes to this talent will make Concussion Blow turn into a skill that pushes another Devastate out whenever possible.

But the damage of Devastate might win Concussion Blow when equipped with a weapon of better damage range.

Hope it helps!

Comentado por 138573

The damage can be dodged / parried / block?.-

Comentado por 176066

This is no longer on the GCD at all it appears, as of 3.08. Whether its a bug or not, I don't know, but I do not recall seeing it in the patch notes.

Comentado por 241136

It says it stuns for 5 seconds, but in my experience, sometimes it seems it only stuns for 2-3 seconds.
Is this the diminishing return they talked about, or am I seeing things?

Comentado por Einhander696

Charge: Duration of stun effect now lasts 1.5 seconds. This effect no longer has diminishing returns.

As of 3.1, so Concussion Blow should no longer be reduced right after that Warbringer Charge.

Comentado por darknesscalls

This ability's damage is being nerfed next patch, most likely in reaction to the large amount of burst damage Protection Warriors can output in Arenas when geared properly.

Patch 3.3.2 Notes:

Concussion Blow : Damage is decreased by 50%, but threat generated by this ability remains still

Comentado por Resented

Assuming you're fighting a spellcaster, it's currently possible to keep them locked down as a Prot Warrior for a total of approximately 35 seconds under ideal conditions.

Concussion blow - 5 seconds.
Shockwave - 2 seconds after Diminishing Returns.
Charge - 1.5* seconds, but not affected by DR.
Pummel - Allows 3 seconds of silence through Gag Order.
Intercept - 2.5* seconds with Glyph of Intercept, also not on DR.
Intimidating Shout - 8 seconds of fear, assuming it doesn't get broken early.
Heroic Throw - Allows 1.5 seconds (After DR) of silence via Gag Order.
Charge - By this point it'll be off cooldown again for another 1.5 seconds of stun.
Shockwave - Assuming you have Glyph of Shockwave, the cooldown will be finished, and DR should** be as well, giving you another 4 seconds of stun.
Pummel - Pummel will be off CD again, and the DR will be finished, allowing you another 3 seconds of silence.
Concussion blow - Will be off cooldown, but affected by DR, allowing you 2.5 seconds more of stun.

All this adds up to a stunning (Pun intended) 34.5 seconds of downtime! Note that it's a better idea to open such a chain with Concussion Blow as opposed to Shockwave, as less stun time is lost from Shockwave being affected by DR than Concussion Blow, and you want to put CB on cooldown as soon as possible.

*I'm aware that Wowhead says Intercept and Charge only stun for 1 second. Both Wowpedia and my ingame experiences disagree with this.
**What I've read suggests that the DR counter is currently 18 seconds. If anyone could confirm/deny this, that would be much appreciated.

Comentado por Thottbot

In pvp, it's up to you how you want to use this skill. Use it to bandage (although you won't be getting the full heal since the duration is only 5 seconds to it), run away for an intercept while others are beating up on target, or just to get some cheap shots with slam or whatever. In PVE, it helps to stunlock deadly PVE mobs and also gives some time to regain aggro if you lost it. Sucks though when the stun returns diminishes if you have a lot of rogues cheapshotting and kidneyshotting.

Comentado por Thottbot

Nope, useable in all stances. I find it very useful when fighting healer mobs.

Comentado por Thottbot

What do you mean how you activate it?.....You have to spend points in the defensive talent tree to get this skill.....the you go to your skills list and drag it down so you can click the icon and use it.

Comentado por Thottbot

This skill rocks. I use it along with Shield Bash to keep casters shut down in PvE. In PvP, it's handy to do the "Stun and Run" (SaR) technique when you really don't wanna fight and you got 15 rage built up. Did this to another warrior and ran away that jumped me in feralas. As long as they don't have a way of catching up to you while in combat (Shaman, Druid, etc) it's a good escape tactic.

Before 1.8 you could stun and mount (because this ability didn't put you in combat) but they nerfed that. That was fun :(

Comentado por Thottbot

Is it me or the stun has a chance to break on damage? Cause it doesn't ever last for 5 sec and the skills says nothing about breaking... Tnx blizz

Comentado por Thottbot

this is a nice move i use it all the time and is useful agains about all classes especially mage after i charge and the just teleport i intercept and hit em with this so count it 8 seconds of hitting if you add intercept stun so great combo i love this skill!

Comentado por Thottbot

I often like to use Concussion Blow and take the time to bandage up for 1000-1250 health. It's a lot cheaper than drinking a potion!

Comentado por Thottbot

u said "Is it me or the stun has a chance to break on damage? Cause it doesn't ever last for 5 sec and the skills says nothing about breaking... Tnx blizz" no its not lagg or bugg or whatever.. it is diminishing returns.. id you cast this within 15 sec before you charged/intercepted it will have a shorter duration. like shaman cant frostshock you how long they want.. rogue can only stun 3 times then ur iimmune. same with sap and gouge. but. the only thing i dont see diminishing returns on is Frostbolt.. but mabye because its long duration of 12 secs.. so no mate it is not lag:)

Comentado por Thottbot

Just wondering:
Any1 who knows if u activate sweeping strikes, then use concussion blow if u can stun two targets at the same time?
If it works, then me likey!

Comentado por Thottbot

No, I don't think it works. I don't have CB, but I have SS, and CB isn't a melee attack cux it doesn't do any dmg. sweeping Strike only does "Next successful melee strikes." Concussion aint a melee strike, so no, it doesn't work.

Comentado por Thottbot

hmm maybe :
charge, melee, conc blow --> mage blinks, pop intercept :) etc. you know the result :P

Comentado por Thottbot

yep, the result is "stun is resisted", "skilled" ice mage hapy continues kiting.
hint: diminishing returns.

The only moves we have against kiting (intercept, charge, and concussive blow) are on the same DR timer (thanks Blizard, we love you too). And now hamstring is 10 sec, instead of 15, god forbid we have any chance of staying in meele range unless we have a pala with blessing of freedom or we have an alt who can make free action potions.

Comentado por Allakhazam

can you use this in any STANCE?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Cooldown for this currently is 45 seconds I believe. Rage cost is 15.

Comentado por xReiuji

tooltip says 5 but it's only 3 seconds edith: most of the time

Comentado por EquineForm

5-seconds... I wish.

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Pancada de Concussão

Pancada de Concussão

Talento

15 de Raiva	Alcance corpo a corpo

Conjuração instantânea	30 seg de recarga

Atordoa o oponente por 5 sec e causa (75 / 100 * Attack power) de dano (com base no poder de ataque).

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5 segundos

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Tipo de dissipação

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15 de Raiva

Alcance

5 metros (Combat)

Tempo de lançamento

Instantâneo

Recarga

30 segundos

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1.5 segundos

Efeito nº1

Apply Aura: Stun
Mecânica: Atordoado
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1

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Multiplicador de JvJ: 1
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[Do Not Sheath]
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[Discount Power On Miss]
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