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Comentado por Greyfall

Has Blizzard said anything about making these factions easier to gain rep with? Currently, I can only see getting exalted with Frostwolf being reasonably attainable.

Comentado por 150104

the way i did it for ab and av (gave up at 13k wsg revered) was to repeatedly do "for great honor" and hand in the marks to get reputation with each faction at the same time so that they were each increasing simulatenously.

Comentado por HaSsE

The rank rewarded, Conqueror can be achived even now.

Comentado por 278579

So u are saying that if we have ranks reverded with AB, WSG and AV we will be able to get the Conqueror title?

Comentado por Enokaz

Why is this only for horde?
Is there an alliance version?

Comentado por TinyPhreak

A little tip would be to use Factionizer to keep track of how many games or flag captures you need to get to the next standing.

Comentado por 150529

with 3.2 this crazy hard achievement became even harder ty to the 20 mins for WSG.
To sum up how hard is to gather the reputation with the various factions:
Frostwolf clan:if you think you can even come close to exalted with the other 2 factions then this will be a walk in the park.Just do the quests,kill allies,usual stuff.Most will already be revered by the time they hit 80 (at least those who don't faceroll to 80).
defilers:hard to get exalted with.Thankfully rep grind got buffed by getting 10 rep with them every 160 resourses instead of 200.Still hard,but also very easy compared to warsong outriders
warsong outriders:the reason i don't have the conqueror's ahievement.Their rep grind is hard,long and very very luck based.Every time your team captures a flag you get 35 reputation.that's it.No other way to get reputation with them.And if that wasn't hard enough,now with 3.2 the game ends within 20 minutes which means you probably won't capture more than 1-2 flags.

having said all that,conqueror tittle currently THE tittle you want to get to raise your e-peen to the stars and beyong.Imagine it like the equal of insane but for PvP

Comentado por 383411

Is this title basically impossible to get now? I realize it's still active and obtainable...But at what cost? lol. Is there another way to get this rep? WSG you only get 15 rep with Outriders from what I can see and IF you win every one of the BG's wouldn't that mean that you have to run like 800 of them?

Comentado por 515768

The best, most skilled, most dedicated GUILD of PvPers would take MONTHS to get this by winning every game and getting a tiny fraction of the way there each time. Its a grind, but moreso its definitely just a "sorry everyone who had battlemaster before the 3.3 nerf because you PvP'd at 60, here, have this to make up for it"

Well i had this title long before Achievements were implented but back then i found AB Rep much harder to grind then WS Rep. I mean solo grinding here..because WS gets over very quickly if your group sucks but AB could take ages to finish -.-

Anyway it sucks that Blizzard didnt bring the new titles to compensate for the BM Nerf in 3.3..just like they didnt make "against the odds" a feat of strengt in 3.2.

Comentado por chaosbringer127

Obtained this achievement a few days ago. This achievement took me a year and one month to obtain. My best advice is to simply play for the fun of it. If you treat it like a grind you *WILL* go insane and give up. Just play WSG or AB, and enjoy the game. Do not worry about the rep, it will come in time.

If you want a quick and easy title, this achievement is NOT for you.

Comentado por Caldnar

Sheldon Cooper has this achievement.

"Sheldor the Conqueror, back online."

Comentado por desizme

actually there was a ep. that his wow account got hacked. so he could have the title.

Comentado por Isiwien

General facts and other neat information around Arathi Basin and the reputation grind:

Reputation gains for full victories (reaching 1600/1600 points) during normal days:

10 ticks × 10 reputation = 100 rep.
It ticks every 160 resources you reach.

Reputation gains for full victories (reaching 1600/1600 points) during Call to Arms:

11 ticks × 10 reputation = 110 rep.
It ticks every 140 resources you reach.

Can I get more reputation when farming AB than this?
If you're in a guild with Queridinho you will be getting 10% extra reputation. Meaning 11 rep per tick instead of 10:

During normal days: 10 ticks × 11 reputation = 110 rep for a full victory.
During Call to Arms: 11 ticks × 11 reputation = 121 rep for a full victory.

Does it matter whether you win or lose the BG? Regarding reputation gains.
No, the only thing that matters is whether you reach the required resources or not.
E.g. Reaching 160, 320 etc or during CtA reaching 140, 280 etc. Of course you'll get more honor for winning.

How does this work if you have both Queridinho + Diplomacia (Alliance only of course)?
They should be stacking and you should be getting 12 reputation per tick. Not quite sure about the exact number if they are both based on the base amount of rep or if they are based on eachother.

Are there any quests you can get extra reputation from?
Yes there are three quests. These are the same quests that have been in the game since Vanilla though, so you might have done them even though you might not remember it. The quests are avalible from Hammerfall (H) and Refuge Point (A) in Arathi Highlands.
One NPC per faction gives all quests:

Horde: Senhora da Morte Dwire: A batalha pela Bacia Arathi! (Neutral required), Tome quatro bases (Friendly required), Tome cinco bases (Exalted required).
Alliance: Marechal-de-campo Oslight: A Batalha pela Bacia Arathi! (Neutral required), Controlar quatro bases (Friendly required), Controlar cinco bases (Exalted required).

There are one or two more quests called Standard/Advanced Care Package but they only award 10 reputation.
And no, Blizzard has no plans what so ever to change this reputation system. They like how this is in AB+WSG and would like to keep it as one of the few über grinds in game. The only fact we can rely on is that RNGesus plays a very little role in this reputation grind...

Updates as of 4.2
It appears that reputation gains has been reduced by approximately 30%.
You now get reputation during normal days for full victories:

6 ticks × 10 reputation = 60 rep. (66 with Queridinho).
It ticks every 260 resources you reach. (Up by 100 resources.)

And during Call to Arms:

8 ticks × 10 reputation = 80 rep. (88 with Queridinho).
It ticks every 200 resources you reach. (Up by 60 resources.)

This is in my opinion outrageous and I'm hoping it gets reverted.

Comentado por 805465

Here some stats and fact. sorry for my bad english.

AB and AV are total cake, the real thing is WSG.

With a lvl 25 guild you get 38-39-38-39-38-39-38-39 for every flag.

i play 655 wsg and i win 373 for that title. Thats a 57% win.
with an average of 64 rep per battle (at 57%)
i use drum of speed and speed potion and i took 213 flag by myself.
I start playing wsg before Cata, but i ill do my math with guild perk.
You need ~ 1090 flag (42000/38,5)
so its 1.66 flag per wsg (at 57%)

from 0/21000 to 21000/21000 that take me 2 month (18/05 to 18/07)
So, i supose its doable in 4 month. (still need AB and AV)

The best i ever do was 4 x 3flag in 1 hour (~464rep) and of course the worse was zero.. (oh yeah.... sometime after 5 hours you have 2 flag.. with AB and AV atleast you ALWAYS get some rep)

I didnt really play during weekly because there lots of premade and its usually a failfest.
Weekly = BAD (more lose than the bonus)

And idk if they fix that but you get 10 rep per Twin Peak flag during the wsg weekly.

If you really want to grind it, you are probably able to hit 154rep (4 flag) per 1 hour (Q time include)
so its an ~272 hours achivement (only for WSG) maybe 600h for all 3)
Anyway and the worse... its not a super title because lot of ppl have it cause it was nearly free back in BC.

IMHO, Battlemaster > Conqueror

Comentado por 971901

I've been playing casually since TBC and i'm still honored with both WSG and Arathi Basin factions.
And now they reduced the rep gain?
This is outrageous.

Comentado por 163020

This is easily the hardest achievement in the game in terms of grinding. Yes, you could improve it in an amazing guild group, however, the overwhelming majority of players, will have a chance only to do it via random battlegrounds. Even those that do make groups for those, they may not be able to do it for a large part of their wow life.

Comentado por xinaro

A little tip would be to use Factionizer to keep track of how many games or flag captures you need to get to the next standing.

Factionizer is no longer maintained and the part for the arathi basin is bugged - so here is a fix:

English-Horde:

Open: YourWoWFolder\Interface\AddOns\Factionizer\Content\content.en.lua
Search for:

-- The Defilers
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathi Basin collect 160 Resources", 10, false)
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathi Basin Win (1600 Resources)", 100, false)

and replace it with this lines:

-- The Defilers
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathi Basin collect 260 Resources", 16, false)
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathi Basin Win (1600 Resources)", 96, false)

German-Horde:

Open: YourWoWFolder\Interface\AddOns\Factionizer\Content\content.de.lua
Search for:

-- The Defilers
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathibecken 160 Resourcen gesammelt", 10, false)
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathibecken Sieg (1600 Resourcen)", 100, false)

and replace it with this lines:

-- The Defilers
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathibecken 260 Resourcen gesammelt", 16, false)
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Arathibecken Sieg (1600 Resourcen)", 96, false)

Russian-Horde:

Open: YourWoWFolder\Interface\AddOns\Factionizer\Content\content.ru.lua
Search for:

-- The Defilers
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Собрано 160 ресурсов", 10, false)
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Победа на поле боя (1600 ресурсов)", 100, false)

and replace it with this lines:

-- The Defilers
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Собрано 260 ресурсов", 16, false)
FIZ_AddInstance("The Defilers", 4, 8, "Победа на поле боя (1600 ресурсов)", 96, false)

p.s.: Sorry @Phreaker but I have no idea how to format a reply.

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