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Comment by ayeee

Seems to be the bop equivalent of Blood of sargeras from Legion.
A good thing since without time gate the prices would melt in days.

Comment by Nieghclaw

As of Alpha: there is a small chance this can be obtained from obliterating crafted gear from the Scrap-o-matic 1000 near the Profession trainers, or you can get it from transmuting from alchemy.

I have obliterated 20 items and got 3.

Beta 26567 update: Since you can now Scrap all gear, they can be obtained from green+ gear (crafted or drops) from BFA content, higher chances with higher ilvl gear. Can no longer get from herb and mining.

Comment by Feanen

I had some drop for me while mining today.

Comment by hevgirl

Tortollan Seekers
Cosmetic Items

Honored:
Scroll of Combustible Critters

Revered:
Cou'pa - Cou'pa

not really cosmetic, but it's a bag! lol
Pattern: Embroidered Deep Sea Bag - Embroidered Deep Sea Bag
- Embroidered Deep Sea Bag: Embroidered Deep Sea Satin Expulsom Hydrocore -

Exalted:
Tabard of the Tortollan Seekers

Comment by Kakapenka

I am yet to see one drop from minig, after ~450 of both common ores and ~100 platinum.
Current mining skills tooltips do not suggest "rare drops" as the legion mining skills.

Disclaimer: All the mining is done not at max lvl, so that might be the reason.

Comment by Blahblahwhatever

As of this posting Expulsom is obtained primarily from using the Scrap-o-Matic 1000 located conveniently near the mining, blacksmithing and engineering trainers in Dazar'Alor, Zuldazare if you are Horde. The Alliance Scrap-o-Matic 1000 is located in south-eastern Tradewinds Market in Boralus.

Essentially the Scrap-o-Matic 1000 works like the Obliterum Forge in Legion however one major difference from Legion is that you can use it to break down any gear obtained that is from the Battle for Azeroth expansion, including dungeon/raid drops, quest rewards, world drops and crafted gear. Apart from a chance at getting Expulsom you will also get ore, gems, leather, occasional enchanting mats (from scrapping cloth gear) and other crafting mats. The best way to obtain Expulsom seems to be from breaking down rare/epic gear you obtain from dungeons and raids, killing rare elites and doing world quests, it also drops rarely from BFA uncommon quality items. So if you need expulsom don't vendor those pieces when you don't need them!

Comment by sunman42

Expulsom can also be created by Alchemists using Transmute: Expulsom, which generates 5 Expulsom per day from 10 Akunda's Bite, 10 Winter's Kiss, and 3 Anchor Weed.

Comment by linda535

Late into Beta: I've never gotten it from any gathering profession. I read somewhere it's more from Scrapping blue items at the Scrap-O-Matic 1000 (Alliance under an open shed by the profession trainers in Tradewinds Market). Not true. It's either totally random or RNG. Even purple items don't guarantee an expulsom and some green items will give you one right after another.

Comment by seldric

How will enchanters create Expulsom? Is it from disenchanting, or can you put enchants in the scrapper?

Comment by Roflpopz

Do you actually need Expulsom to craft flasks, or is it a bug? Because some YouTube videos show otherwise, that you don't need 'em. E.g. Flask of Endless Fathoms.

Comment by gamer74123

As of today's beta build - this is no longer part of the flask recipes.

Comment by Roflpopz

I have a question regarding Expulsom, because as a herbalist and alchemist I don't see how to spent my expulsom? Will there be a trader from the get go to trade the expulsom to herbs or something?

Comment by Soeroah

If this is the Blood of Sargeras of BfA, there should be a vendor using this as a currency to buy profession materials at some point, so characters with two gathering professions have a use for them, yeah?

I'll never understand why such vendors are patched in instead of at launch..

Comment by desperado558

From what I've gathered so far in regards to scrapping/shredding items at the Shred-Master Mk1:

Weapons return material that is used in their crafting through professions(Thanks BlacKcuD!):

Bows -> Bones/Wood
Fist weapons -> Bones/Scales
Axes/Maces/Swords/Polearms/Shields -> Ore
Offhands -> Ink

Rings, and Plate gear produce random amounts of ore, with potential of gems.

Mail gear produces scales and bone

Leather gear produces skins of varying quality.

Cloth gear produces cloth of varying quality.

All gear has the potential of producing Expulsom, with the exception of trinkets which seem to be guaranteed to produce ONLY Expulsom. (this seemingly does not include crafted trinkets, thanks imanollew!)

Edited to include what people found in the replies! May still be missing a few things, but that should be most of it, thanks to those that corrected me!

Comment by Amallah

Got 3 by scrapping a mixture of 9 blues and greens, so the chances don't seem too low. Or I got lucky!

Comment by Kurasu

It is worth noting that you can get almost *any* materials out of Scrap-O-Matic in addition to the Expulsom.
Plate Armor gives ore.
Mail armor gives scales.
Leather armor gives (surprise surprise) leather.
Cloth armor gives (again, surprise) cloth. So do all cloaks I have tried.

However, once you get into weapons and the like, the more interesting stuff starts to pop up as well:
Most weapons give ore: Shields, swords, daggers, warglaives, et cetera.
From wands, I have gotten enchanting mats.
From staves and rings, I have gotten gems as well as ore.
From off-hands, I have gotten inks.
Fist Weapons seen to give scales.

All in all, a variety of things that you can get out of things that drop off just about anything!

Comment by BlacKcuD

It is not random what you get out of the bot.

Here is a rough overview:

ores: plate armor, two handed swords, shields etc
scales: mail gear, bows etc
leathers: leather gear
cloth: cloth gear and backs
enchanting mats: wands
gems: rings etc
expulsom: small chance from all gear, guaranteed from trinkets

Comment by Alienatedflea

is this the new version of Blood of Sargares/Primal Sargerite?

Comment by Tenebrarum

So, what if we have a purely gatherer character? (ie: Miner + Herbalist)

Do we have any use for this ? Anyone found anything? A merchant like we had for blood of sargeras for exemple?

Comment by 9mmx19

I hope they put in a vendor that takes these for us who arent crafters

Comment by heppcatt

I have scrapped 3147x Tidespray Linen Bracers.

This is what I got:
517x Expulsom
4801x Tidespray Linen
2153x Nylon Thread

This means, that for each Tidespray Linen Bracers I got on average:
0.164x Expulsom
1.526x Tidespray Linen
0.684x Nylon Thread

So basically I got 1 Expulsom for every 6 Tidespray Linen Bracers. In addition to that I also got some of the Tidespray Linen and Nylon Thread back.

According to the data I have collected the quality of the items that are scrapped does not have any impact on the amount of Expulsom that is created.

I also scrapped other tailoring items, that are more expensive to craft. I did not have the impression that I got out more Expulsom from those items. However, the data suggested that the amount of Linen and Nylon returned might be slightly higher for more expensive items, but my sample size was too small to reliably indicate something like that.

Update: There are some comments here that suggest that the proc rate has changed. I did not notice a change. I stopped to document my scrapping some time ago. But I still get out around 16 percent. Sometimes I get more, sometimes less. Sometimes you're just lucky, sometimes you aren't.

Comment by Kurasu

The quality of the item scrapped does *not* seem to have an impact in how much Expulsom you get. It does, however, seem to have an impact in the quality of the materials you get from the item: I have received more green and even blue quality materials from blue quality quest items, rarely, but never with green quality ones.

I've not tried to scrap an epic, let alone enough for a good comparison, so I am unable to qualify as to whether the chance is higher of either one with them, but would assume so.

Comment by thomsen48

I have scrapped 1152 x Tidespray Linen Bracers, which gave me 202 x Expulsom..

That's 1 Expulsom per 5.7 Tidespray Linen Bracers

Comment by Celea

I scrapped 52 Tidespray Bracers, and only received 4 Expulsom. Either I'm very unlucky, or they stealth-fixed the expulsom drop rate from crafted items.

Comment by marc314cel

Sofar my drop rate for Expulsom is 16% or one for every 6 gear pieces scrapped.
Measured while scrapping 52 items.

Comment by cevaps

They definetly changed the drop rate, atleast for Tidespray Linen Bracers. Just scrapped 1500xTidespray Linen Bracers and drop rate is 8%.

Comment by DatOwl

Here are the stats I was able to come up with a small pool of 30 wands for enchanting:

Created Enchanter's Umbral Wandx30 and scrapped them all. 5 of them turning rare quality (didn't change what they yielded).

Yielded:
Expulsom x11
Gloom Dust x63
Star Wood x27

Losing about 600 Gloom Dust and 30 Umbra Shard for roughly 11 Expulsom

(Obviously net loss would be 537 dust, 30 shards, and 3 starwood)

Note: I never received any of the Umbra Shard back from scrapping, so just be wary you will only receive back Expulsom, Gloom Dust, and Star Wood from what I've seen.

As to if that price is worth it, not entirely sure. I have about 300 shards and had about 800 gloom dust, so it doesn't particularly upset me, but to each their own.

Comment by donnima

So Blizzard try hard to make Crafting totally useless and force players to go farming for transmog items for gold! Deep Sea Satin rare drop! Expulsom very very very hard to harvest! and last but worse Hydrocore which Drop only by 7 NPC with max 15% drop chance! Do they really pay to employees who suggesting these methods? I think they trying to help Gold Digger players!

Comment by PWJones

I have now scrapped 103 items and have gotten zero (0) expulsom. This was on 2 different toons. Several of my guildies have scrapped items with only 2 expulsom for them so far. At this point I'm giving up on crafting anything while it's useful and just selling all the items I don't need for the vendor gold.

Comment by Raton

Update 22 September

Scrapped almost 4000 items to date (August 30th)

3690 greens gave 561 pieces
129 blues gave 18 pieces
44 epics (310-350) gave 5 pieces

Makes it 1 Expulsom in 6.614 items scrapped combined or

1 in 6.5775 for greens
and
1 in 7.5217 for the rest

Even given the small sample size, it is safe to assume that Green, Blue and Epic BfA gear has SAME CHANCE for Expulsom proc from Scrapping gear.

UPDATE :

While scrapping crafted items (370-385 ilvl which require 25 and 250 Sanguicell of respectively) you will get back spent Sanguicell on this item. Basically 100% refunded (only Sanguicell used to craft it, not rest of mats) !

Comment by Olioster

Can you only get this from crafted gear?

Comment by Maxmass

So, today I did scrap total of 960 green item made with Leather Working craft, Here what I got :

1359 x Shimmerscale = 1.415% chance/scrap
475 x Blood-Stained Bone = 0.494% chance/scrap
149 x Expulsom = 0.155% chance/scrap

Hope sharing this informations would help some...

Comment by linda535

I'm wondering what non-crafters can do with expulsom, besides moan about how other alts could use it. At least with Blood of Sargarus, we could use it for class hall resources or sell/trade it for other supplies.

Comment by Wolf699

If you are Alliance, Expulsom is created when you scrap items in the Scrap-O-Matic 1000. The Scrap-O-Matic 1000 is located in the Tradewinds Market in Boralus at 77.3/16.2.

Comment by BethofHearts

Enchanters really are the big losers when it comes to the expulson mechanic. In order to get mats, you need to DE gear, Ofc if you do that, you cannot scrap them for expulsom. Another fine example of Blizzard devs not thinking before they implement something

Comment by Skids

Did a small test on various different items, azerite/epics/blues/green vs crafted items for expulsom drop rates. Scrapped a total of 71 dropped items and 71 crafted, Shimmerscale Armguards if anyone cares. Both rounds of scrapping gave me 13 expolsum, for a total of 26 expulsom. Did a handful of trinkets as well and they were 100% drop for expulsom. I didnt see any big difference between the levels of gear for expulsom drops, but there was a noticable difference with the amount of mats I got back; the better the gear the more mats returned. My test I belive was a drop rate of 1 in 5.5 (if I did my math correctly). Although, it was such a small testing pool I think the drop rate of 1 in 6 is probably much more accurate based off the mass scrapping I've done in the past.

Mainly did this test due to the misconception of those on my server that keep spreading the rumor that dropped greens have a better drop rate. At this point, I'm almost 99% positive expulsom has its own separate roll chance when you scrap, the only item giving you better odds being non crafted trinkets.

Comment by deacontaylor

the majority of the +75 crafting items need this. from what everyone is saying its should be able to craft one item every few months. dont know if ill get to max it out before the next expansion.
lets see if they have any other roadblocks like mythic dungeon drops like they did in legion.

Comment by lovelywaz

This is the best (worst) gold sink Blizz has introduced in BfA. Drop rate from scrapping is abysmal, other than 100% from trinkets, and you lose tons of gold from vendoring all the BoPs that you end up scrapping now for a bunch of leather/cloth or even vendor sold crafting mats.

Comment by MonkeyKingChappa

HI! Does anyone know if I can find expulsom in the Auction House? If so, what category is it under?
Thanks!

Comment by Brogmage

Scrapped 310 of the Tidespray Linen Bracers, didn't really track how many proc'ed to rare quality. Got 53 expulsom, so roughly 17% drop rate.

Comment by Fogde

Soooo... What are you going to do when you have tailoring and enchanting and DE every item you don't need instead of scrapping them? How the hell am I going to get these then?

Comment by Mike21daisu

Seems like scrapping Tidespray Linen Bracers is the best source to farm Expulsom if you don't want to wait days upon days to get it from Transmute: Expulsom, which is in fact the best way to efficiently gain Expulsom. So if you don't wanna spend time and effort in crafting and scrapping thousands of items, then I recommend doing your Transmute: Expulsom every day.

I scrap exactly 1k Tidespray Linen Bracers every month or so to farm my Expulsom. On average, I get about ~170-200 Expulsom from it. As for other items, you get 1-2 Tidespray Linen & Nylon Thread per scrap.

Comment by Darthius

So has anyone found a use for Expulsom when you have 2 x gathering professions?

Comment by Weefu

Needs to be BoA (Bind on Account). I have gathering alts with many of these collecting dust.

Comment by anonsequitur

So why can't it be sold on the AH instead of being soulbound? The only thing I can do with it is to sell it to a vendor. What a waste. At least let me send it to an alt that could use it.

Comment by alpanhell

You can also sometimes get this as a reward for a World Quest (it will list it as the reward).

Comment by Halgrimmdk

Seriously?

I can read that plaayers have been asking for a vendor or for these crap items be made BoA since Beta!

Now it is 8.2.5 and nothing has happened - still stockpiling these on all characters, since
- they are often questrewards
- scrapping becomes the standard thing to do - even when vendoring might be better (and we like the lottery)
- things crafted with them are rarely sellable

I think Blizzard should put their pant on and get moving with this silly matter!

Comment by EnsoHeals

If Alchemists & Enchanters can make them - why not scribes and engineers ? Give all the crafters access to make the mats they need.

Comment by IdonaeofKilrogg

Unless I am missing something here, this is only used for crafting. As my priest is only a gatherer, I have no use for the expulsom she has in her bags. Wish blizz would make this item boa or a currency so I can actually put it to use.

Comment by CeldorZ

I scrapped:
138 x Monel-Hardened Armguards

and got:
19 x Expulsom

Comment by BobnLee

Expulsom should be account bound because of the difference between crafting trades and gatherers. This would allow gathers to supply their alts with crafting trades.

Comment by Yavas

For those who have farmed Nazjatar: suddenly found it useful to spend the remained manapearls on the tokens sending them to the crafter for utilizing. Saved me a lot of gold!

Comment by bzaareg

Scrapped x400 Tidespray Linen Bracers: got x589Nylon Thread, x590Tidespray Linen and x75Expulsom

Comment by TimboChuck

This has probably been figured out already, but if you have a toon with tailoring or any crafting profession where the mats are cheap on your server; you can make a crap ton of Tidespray Linen Bracers and send them to your alts to scrap for about a 20% drop rate on Expulsom
Hope this helps!

Comment by alpanhell

Well it looks like Blizzard has forgotten to give players a way to use this if they don't have a crafting profession...

So if you're a gatherer these are a complete waste of bag space.

Comment by alpanhell

Well I thought for sure they'd add some way for gatherers to use this this xpac, like they have every other one. But doesn't look like it's going to happen!

Blizz seems to be MIA this expansion

Comment by 6by6n6

Just started an alt and wanted 30 expulsom to craft the engineering helm. Thought I'll just confirm that the old systems still work.

Bought around 40 benthic pieces on my main, mailed and scrapped them. Bought as many 266 ilvl Armor pieces I could find for under 100g & scrapped those too.

For me the drop rate varied between 10-15% but definitely worked.

Alt was a low level miner but the 5 Expulsom world quest wasn't showing. Went and learnt Kul Tiran mining and it popped on the map. At zero kul tiran mining skill. So make sure u learn 2 professions even if it's an absolute new toon.

Just a note.. bought around 10 weapons too (266 ilvl) but got zero Expulsom from those. Small sample size, so maybe I was just unlucky.

Comment by Elodeon

Made 1043 Tidespray Linen Bracers. At about 2g/cloth, this cost about 20,000g. Mailed to alt, scrapped => 174 Expulsom.

The scrapping produced enough cloth to make another 155 bracers. Extrapolating, this could produce another ~25 Expulsom, for a total of ~200.

Since prices of Tidespray Linen are unlikely to increase at this point of the expansion, this puts the baseline cost of Expulsom at 100g each, if you can be bothered to spend literally hours crafting and scrapping.

Comment by TheRealGandalf

Can someone please explain why the scrap-o-matic will accept some items but not others of the same item levels? Being an engineer, I need an excessive amount of Expulsom so I have tried to buy inexpensive armor and weapons from the AH. But some level 100 items (like a life transformer gun) can't be scrapped, but tidespray linen bracers of ilvl 53 can. And a whole range of items between 50-100 sometimes can be scrapped while others can't.

What am I missing?

Comment by Shivrael

Now that this is old content, they should make this account bound, or, nall gasp, unbound.

All I wanna do is learn blacksmithing recipes on my main. My alt has over 300 of these and can't use em, and I'm looking at needing hundreds of em to make any progress...

Comment by Nightwishr

For Alliance, the Scrap-O-Matic 1000 is at 77, 16 in Boralus

/way Boralus 77, 16 Scrap-O-Matic 1000

For Horde, the Shred-Master Mk1 is at 44.9, 40.2 in Dazar'alor

/way Dazar'alor:Zuldazar 44.9, 40.2 Shred-Master Mk1

Comment by zinzan

This macro will auto fill the scrapper with the item between paranthesis (even if they are "of the...")

/run for bag = 0,4,1 do for slot = 1, GetContainerNumSlots(bag), 1 do local name = GetContainerItemLink(bag,slot); if name and string.find(name,"Coarse Leather Armguards") then UseContainerItem(bag,slot) end end end

Then all you have to do is click the macro and click scrap.

Scrapping macro bfa. Macro for fast scrapping bfa Expulsum.

Comment by tkalfaoglu

strange that if you don't have tailoring or engineering, you can collect these expulsoms, but can do very little with them. I have alchemy, herbalism and cooking and I can't use the expulsom - yeah there is only 1 useless vial I can make with it. Currently I have 50 piled up.

Comment by ShadedWolf

Is there a way this item can e bought in the AH?

Comment by Blacknny

Why is it still BoP?... /sigh

Comment by PreyAndy

Is there is discord server for this sort of stuff? I would like to invite some of my friends in the KRNL Discord (https://discordserverlists.com/krnl-discord/) to this one. Let me know if there is. Thanks

Comment by WhiskyJim

So basically, between Legion profession quests and the existence of Expulsom, Blizzard is showing they don't care about returning players who want to go back to missed expansions just to level up crafting professions.

Also, you can AH level crafting profs in Shadowlands soooo...smh.

Comment by coolyellow

I needed 33 of these to make my Mistscale Leggings, so I estimated I needed to make 200 X Shimmerscale Armguards at a drop rate of around 20% with some buffer.

I bought the mats for 200 of them for about 1.5K g, and then I kept crafting, scrapping, and recrafting until I ran out of materials.

Crafts: 200 + 50 + 13 + 4 + 1 = 268 crafts

It gave me 32 expulsoms, for an actual drop rate of 11.94%

I had enough leather to then make 3 X Coarse Leather Armguards which gave me my last needed expulsion.

Comment by Antec

I would like to know if everyone else is having the same problem as me for scrapping for expulsom now?

I can't put in more than 1 item in the "3x3" box or it locks up and i have to log out completely and back in to be able to scrap again.

Comment by JimmyO

This is assuming you are running them anyways for transmog/quests/some other benefit.

LFR may provide a decent source of these since you can queue for it through the npc Eppu and not need to fly to each raid to run them. What little testing I've done has produced expulsom at a much higher rate per item than throwing crafted gear into the scrapper.

Crafted gear obviously will still be faster purely because you can AH the mats and craft it yourself or buy scrappable gear on the AH, but this may be a nice alternative if you are running LFR for something and just vendoring the gear, or if money is tight and mass buying more mats or gear to scrap is not a feasible option.

For me, I was running some of the raids to make a speedset on my LW/BS (hunter, so 2/3 mail azerite pieces that provide the longstrider trait are raid-only drops. I have been following this guide for the speedset), so this has provided some expulsom from something I am doing anyways.

That said, the same could be done for dungeon loot obviously at a lower rate since they drop blues on all difficulties except mythic.

Comment by marcelofva

A fix to @zinzan's macro in 10.2.0:

/run for bag=0,4,1 do for slot=1,C_Container.GetContainerNumSlots(bag),1 do local name=C_Container.GetContainerItemLink(bag,slot) if name and string.find(name,"Tidespray Linen Bracers of the ") then C_Container.UseContainerItem(bag,slot) end end end

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