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Comentado por 9443

I would agree with above ^^^
This is a MUST for all PvP Paladins, There is a nice trick for this that I used.
-When you are in range to use this against your enemy, immediatley use repentance to dismount/ stop the enemy/ seperate him from his group. (I especially find this useful when trying to catch enemies such as Flagholders)
-Now that your enemy is stopped regain a bit of mana for a second or heal (potions etc)
-now hit him again with a Hammer of Justice
-He is stunned again, Unleash your DPS

Comentado por Thottbot

Does it work on human players in PVP mode?

Comentado por Thottbot

I totally agree with kibo, I am planning on speccing on prot and using this skill as well as I can see that this skill gives u 2 stuns per minute not just 1 and the ability to heal up any time :)

And prot is really an overlooked tree - just look at Imp. DEV aura and Toughness that give great extra armor, and Reckoning and repentance that allow u to heal several times oer minute without beinb interrupted, unless ur opponent has insugnia...then u use repentance....

AND Imp. Blessing of freedom, use it against hunters and mages and u will see why this tree kixks more but than the other 2, seriuosly - try it, I amgona respec to prot and se how it works and I have no doubt I will be pleased ^^

Comentado por Thottbot

Hi,

I use it very often in PvP. Its range is longer than the HoJ and uses diferent timer so I use it to get into combat range. If the enemy tries to run again then HoJ.

I tried stun-lock a mob while killing the other but the timers are too long and both skills (Rep, HoJ) fade too fast.

Regards,

Zav

Comentado por Thottbot

Whenever i use this in PvP (which is often) i have never seen insignia being used on it, and im sure ppl have tried it, so this is REALLY useful for getting in one quick heal.

Comentado por Thottbot

i find the rep-HoJ semi stunlock pretty usefull 4 some extra SoC judgements but u kinda need something like 11+/x/31+
have sanctity aura and SotC up before this (bonus points if vengeance procs :)
cast SoC. if ur target doesn't seem to want to flee (full health, melee class that sorta things) or there r more targets also cast consecration before SoC.
as soon as u can, HoJ and judge SoC. Refresh SoC and u'll prolly get to attack once-twice after this
cast repetance, judge SoC as soon as it lights up and refresh it
this is pretty unreliable cause ppl can trinket out of stuns but u can hurry up with the repent and usually u get the judgements before they break them anyway
now u spent about 600mana (consecrate not included) and did about 800 certain unmitigated dmg + whatever SoC procs or melee strikes u got lucky with AND stunlocked ur target for about 3-9 secs (3 if the target used a trinket)
if u had cast consecrate before the HoJ it would prolly get all tics and not break rep early which means an extra 400 if fighting one target (so mana inefficient against one ...)
what do u say?

Comentado por Thottbot

Will of the Forsaken breaks this I think...

Comentado por Thottbot

No, it doesn't. It doesn't work on incapacitation. I easily forget that it doesn't. It only works against fear, charm, and stun (can't remember if it's stun, though). I know it doesn't work cause earlier on today while I was playing I was sapped by a rogue and I couldn't WotF out of it.

Comentado por Thottbot

1. Hammer of Justice has a 10 yard range
2. Repentance has a 20 yard range
3. Hammer of Wrath has a long 30 yard range

These ranges are not random, use each ability appropriately and you will see the benefits of each skill.

{Your strongest defense is not to be surprised}

Comentado por Thottbot

My strategy for battlegrounds/world pvp is to first throw a stun grenade, then run ip, get in first hit, hammer of justice, get in second and possibly third hit, then repentance, fourth hit. At that point theyre boned because youve already nearly killed them, and theyve been stunned the entire time.

Comentado por Thottbot

Has someone ever made the comparaison?

REPENTANCE
= WAY lower mana cost - 60 mana? oh oh
= Almost IDENTICAL DAMAGE dealt with Judgement of Command and the bonus to damage due to the incapacitate effect
= + RANGED INCAPACITATE = so many uses

HOLY SHOCK
= Instant Heal but EXTREM mana cost.
THIS should even not be the use of a SHOCK.
But come a few patches, and then Holy Paladins are relegated to pure support even in their offensive tools, although it was promised it would have never been the case - THIS, is important.

WHICH GIVES
By evidence repentance is the winner by a large margin. Has someone never seen this? Ready to argue against that?

Additional note: Not only on Repentance but Retribution paladins have overall a better talent tree.
If memory serves, this has always been the case.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ok, I don't get this skill I guess. Can it be used on multiple enemies? Is there a cooldown? Can I recast it to keep one enemy from ever attacking?

Comentado por Allakhazam

this spell is only attainable through the ret talent tree and only work on world creature humaniods and not other players.

Comentado por Allakhazam

cool down is a long min ... not that great for only 6 sec. :(

Comentado por Allakhazam

Yeah, what's the cooldown? That is a hugely important bit of informaiton that's missing.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'm thinking this could be used as a Pally's "poor-man" version of polymorph to take care of adds while engaging another mob. Maybe the duration get's better with higher ranks like all the other talent-exclusive spells.

Comentado por Allakhazam

From what I've read, the value of this is: if you've already chosen to get Holy Shield, you may want to consider getting this, too. Why? If you pvp a lot it is a second stun to use at the end of the fight when the target is about to flee.

The argument I read is that you save up as much firepower as you can for the end when the enemy turns to flee. Stun, judge a damage-doing seal - throw a bomb if yer an engi timed to do it's 2 second stun as your first stun ends - then if target is still alive do THIS stun and whack-a-mole. You should be able to kill at this point.

Never tried it, my pal is still under 20. But this is the value of this from what I've read. Is it worth it? I guess it is if you constantly get people running from you in pvp and you want to kill.

Of course having a second stun is useful in other circumstances, obviously - like if you need to run, like to stop the target from healing self, etc.

Comentado por Allakhazam

where is this spell i havent found it in talents

Comentado por Allakhazam

Compare this talent to a rogue's Gouge skill. You use this to set up your opponent for a powerful attack or to run away while your opponent is unable to follow.

Thing with paladins is, however, we don't get any abilities that are much more powerful than another. Best way I can see to use this skill is to throw on a quick bandage while your opponent can't attack and even get back a couple ticks of mana while you are at it.

If this ability were just 2-4 seconds longer then people would REALLY gripe about paladins.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Okay let's clear some things out as all these posts are OLD!

First
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You CAN cast this on other players (you know players are humanoids too! OH MY GODZILLA)

Second
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This is mainly used to:
1- Interrupt a caster that thinks it's an easy heal now that Hammer of Justice is out.

2- Make another double damage Judgement of Command (Yes, it also triggers the double damage)

3- Block this one dude on his epic mount running to Stormpike GY in AV. (It has extended range, a few yards more than Hammer of Justice)

Lastly
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Do not think about using a stun/concecration/judge SoC combo with this thing, this a 6 seconds GOUGE, Damage = taking it out.

Thank you.

Comentado por Allakhazam

It should be mentioned that Will of the Forsaken, the Undead raciel, does not Remove Repentance. Some paladins disregard this talent saying they'll just use WotF to drop it any(Repentence is a sleep effect), but the Raciel does not remove this ability. The only way to remove this debuff other then it wearing off, is for the target to be damaged or dispelled.

I don't know if the same is true for Stoneform, but since Dwarves are on your team, it shouldn't be a concern.(Raciel says, removes sleep, but since WotF doesn't, I doubt it would)

Comentado por Allakhazam

This spell is also used my the Maiden of Virture in Karazhan, lasts about 12 seconds, i think that Druids in Tree of Life form are immune to it

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60 de Mana	Alcance de 20m

Instantâneo	1 min de recarga

Coloca o alvo inimigo em um estado meditativo, incapacitando-o por até 6 sec. Qualquer dano causado despertará o alvo. Só funciona em humanoides.

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Incapacitado.
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60 de Mana

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20 metros (Short)

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1 minuto

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1.5 segundos

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Apply Aura: Stun
Valor:1
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1

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