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Comentado por Thottbot

MAXIMUM DAMAGE POTENTIAL - LVL 60
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{{{40.6dps (Bone Slicer) + 10.7dps (Devilsaur Eye)
+ 20dps (CC Earthshaker trinket) +23dps (AP gear)
+12dps (basic agi and str)} X 1.7 (weapon speed)}
+ 140dam (RS!)} X 1.8 (one handed weapon AP
multiplier) +70 % (Crit damage bonus) =

BS Hatchets 325.28 Damage (Normal Hit)
(287.01dps) 552.97 Damage (Normal +Crit)
577.28 Damage (Raptor Strike)
981.37 Damage (RS +Crit)

* (don�t forget you are duel wielding, so you get
another strike at half damage)
* (don�t forget when duel wielding you are
attacking approx 3X faster - better for procs)
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{{{62.8dps (Crul�shorukh) +10.7dps(Devilsaur Eye)
+ 20dps (CC Earthshaker trinket) + 26dps (AP gear)
+12dps (basic agi and str)} X 2.3 (weapon speed)}
+ 140dam (RS!)} X 1.8 (one handed weapon AP
multiplier) +70 % (Crit damage bonus) =

Crul�shorukh 544.41 Damage (Normal Hit)
(355.05dps) 925.50 Damage (Normal +Crit)
796.41 Damage (Raptor Strike)
1353.9 Damage (RS +crit)

* (don�t forget you are duel wielding, so you get
another strike at half damage)
* (don�t forget when duel wielding you are
attacking approx 3X faster - better for procs)
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{{{53.9dps (Barb Blade) + 10.7dps (Devilsaur Eye)
+ 20dps (CC Earthshaker trinket) + 25dps (AP gear)
+12dps (basic agi and str)} X 3.2 (weapon speed)}
+ 140dam (RS!)} X 3.6 (two handed weapon AP
multiplier) +70% (Crit damage bonus)=

Barbarous Blade 1400.83 Dam (Normal Hit)
(437.78dps) 2381.41 Dam (Normal +Crit)
1904.83 Dam (Raptr Strike)
3238.21 Dam (RS +Crit)
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{{{81.9dps (Ashkandi) + 10.7dps (Devilsaur Eye)
+ 20dps (CC Earthshaker trinket) + 27dps (AP gear)
+12dps (basic agi and str)} X 3.5 (weapon speed)}
+ 140dam (RS!)} X 3.6 (two handed weapon AP
multiplier) +70% (Crit damage bonus) =

Ashkandi - 1910.16 Damage (Normal Hit)
(545.76dps) 3247.27 Damage (Normal +Crit)
2414.16 Damage (Raptor Strike)
4104.07 Damage (RS +Crit)
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OTHER FACTORS:

* I haven't factored in the effects of Hunter
talents (eg: TS Aura +7dps)
* I haven't factored in the effects enchants,
potions or consumables.
* I haven't factored in other classes buffs (eg:
Battle shout +20dps )
* I haven't factored in damage absorption from
targets armor.
* Crits are not always +70%, they randomly fall
between +30% to +100%.
* These figures are the result of a 20 second
window due to the use of trinkets.

Comentado por Thottbot

My opinion is somewhat divided.

Pro-Melee Hunter
I believe the �hunters can�t melee� well known slogan is merely propergander. Warriors/Rogues aren�t the most versatile of classes and seem to feel the need to confine other classes their ideals. Ironically the �hunters can�t melee� slogan is antagonizing and actually inclines the likeliness for hunters to �hunter item� something high dps. Also, after being called a noob for the 100th time for using melee weapons doesn�t help decrease the likeliness of hunter vendettas. With improved aspect of the monkey (+13% dodge) deterrence (+25% dodge and parry) on top of our Mail armor (34% physical damage reduction) with our potential do dish high damage with Raptor Strike, use Traps and pet abilities hunters can survive and can be useful in melee combat. Hunters have small skill-sets for melee combat but can be compensated by other abilities. Hypothetically, these factors make it very possible for hunters to be decent meleers.

Pro-Melee Classes
I don�t recommend rolling against a Warrior for his/her Ashbringer nor any other high dps item. People who play Warriors, Rogues, Paladins or any other class that depend highly on dps have earned the right and have priority to roll on these items by dedicating themselves to melee combat. It�s highly unfair if hunters get all the coolest ranged weapons and get first priority for melee weapons also. Don�t roll on the non-passive dps weapon unless the melee classes don�t have a need for it. �Hunter�s cant melee� doesn�t literally mean hunters can�t melee. Its simply an overstatement to heighten hunters awareness of the fact that other classes can dish a lot higher damage in melee combat, because a lot of players (especially hunters) can be very self-indulged.

Pro-Ranged Hunter
Why would hunters choose to melee when we can safely shred everything with guns and bows from a distance at high dps is the question that needs to be asked. Hunters have exceptional ranged damage and a vast amount ranged skills, used to manipulate our targets acquiring more time to deal more damage. Considering Aspect of the Hawk, Hunters Mark, Trueshot Aura not to mention the vast amount of ranged skills we have, if you calculated the MDP of Aimed Shot your head will explode. Focus on ranged combat and you will be a better hunter for it.

Hmmm� I think I mentioned Raptor Strike somewhere in there� Hell, I really need to stop having these internal warcraft debates and get myself some Doritos.

Comentado por Thottbot

/hug

Comentado por Thottbot

u shure need more cowbell. and prolly grey matter too

Comentado por Thottbot

wow dude stfu. everyother word is a swear word. Calm your ass down. Besides.. Any class that can weild a 2hand weapon has every right to roll. Any class that can weild a gun/bow has every right to roll.

Say your in a group. A warrior,pally, HUNTER(you), and a rogue.

Now say iono uhh Doombringer droppped. And this Warrior needed it. and you needed it. You won. You equip this thing and laugh in that warriors face. Minutes later in the instance Dwarven hand cannon drops. How would you feel if that Pally needed it. Even if he couldnt use range? how would you like it if the rogue needed it cuz its epic and has no stats like agility to benefit him?

I would feel very pissed. Hunter skills in Soloing and range. Range being that a good gun/bow is nessasary. Although if you want to melee thats fine have fun doing so. but my suggestion is at least use your range before u run up and smack a rogue in hte face with your"3K" crits. i hope melee hunters arent in my guild/parties..

Comentado por Thottbot

on level 35 i own on mele all clases - maybe except well geared/skilled rogue

with Detherence talent and my wep is Archaic Defender

the most easiest are the wariors - they usualy are very surpirised that i dont try to get range...and keep meleing them

vs Warior - i get range only to put sting and 2-3 hits if posible

Comentado por Thottbot

Raptor Strike is one of my favourite hunter moves. Get a slow 2-hander and woop ass, you can crit around 1k easily. A very nice move if you're there to Wing Clip anyway.

edit: but please do not steal from warriors and take a slow weapon that benefits your ranged aswell, Barbarous Blade for example.

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