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Comentado por dusky

Anyone know of the proc rate?

Comentado por 1437

As with most effects, its a procs-per-minute kind of thing. 1-4 times per 60 non elite for me.

Comentado por Txero33

The play test I've done with this has shown it to be a very helpful item, but not one to rely on. It can, and will save your life, just not when you want it to : )

Comentado por 2385

This trinket is awesome!!! :D For PvP (Rogues) it's best for Rogues...

Comentado por 10746

Anyone know if it heals a hunter (or his pet) when his pet melees someone/something?

Comentado por Thottbot

now that people have the cards, whats the proc rate? tyvm in advance

Comentado por Thottbot

Not good for hunters at all.

Comentado por Thottbot

its good for anyone to accumulate, its worth like 300g

Comentado por Thottbot

It's worth anyone collecting them for the gold.
Not that good for a pallie as thay can do a seal to get the same effect,I guess thay could wear this and do the mana seal.
Great for Rogues in ZG or any hi end raid as rogues DONT get heals rarely....For me NEVER...
I have whipperroot/Dragon's breath hp pot's runecloth bandaids and now this. =D Rogues have to heal them self cos the healers are aiming at the tanks.Most pallies put the mana seal or any other seal on the mob,So this is just another way to heal myself through tough battles.

Comentado por Thottbot

You don`t need the set... you can buye the Deck anyways ;)

Comentado por Thottbot

If you collect all 8 warlords and the Ace, does it turn in to the warlords deck or ?

Comentado por Thottbot

proc is INSANITY i just got this ive fought some trash and it procs like every 4 hits for me

Comentado por Thottbot

i got this card 2day and i was vrsing like 50 elites and when they attacked me it just healed me soo its the best...

Comentado por Thottbot

Im a Horde Rogue, and i was jus wonderin where u hand in when ur in mulgore. What are the cords?

Comentado por Thottbot

37,39..
around that area i think

Comentado por Thottbot

Can a horde player turn this in at the Alliance faire? I dont wanna have to wait until the Horde fair :( lol

Comentado por Allakhazam

Maybe a little for shamans with a magma totem a but not much else. Unless i missed something!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ok, so here's the scoop. I got this trinket yesterday on my Shaman. My shaman has about + 113 to healing gear on him when I go soloing. I also have crusader enchant on my 2h mace that I use. I find that this procs slightly more then my crusader procs and heals more then the crusader proc as well. With my + to healing gear on, I have had this thing heal me constatly in the upper 200's and on crits it has healed me in the low to mid 400's. I got a pic here for some proof.

http://www.geocities.com/klysktantro/cardcrusader2.JPG

Edited, Wed Aug 10 18:16:25 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

They make such useless items, it pisses me off. That should heal like 300 - 400 instead.

Comentado por Allakhazam

CLEARLY a druid trinket...It doesnt say when melee attacking...so the way MOST druids fight, moonfire spam would be good.

Silence is the way of the rogue...

Comentado por Allakhazam

Im close to having this, so gonna try it out soon.

But think about it. If it procs 1 time in a fight, it equals +12-18 sta. If it procs twice in a fight, it has given you 24-36 extra sta... Its gonna depend a lot on the proc rate... but since its on all attacks, id guess its 1-2%. Still might be worth it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

As some people are wondering:
The procrate on this is fairly close to the crusader enchant, true, it's 8%. This means on 100 hits you will recover an average of 8x150 = 1200 hitpoints. this may not seem a lot, but with lifedrain and/or crusader enchants on your weapon a furor dualwield warrior and of course rogues can go on farming for what seems like eternity without even throwing in a heal potion.
It is nice, but nothing real if it comes to PvP.

PS: And it only works in close combat, so it's a no for ranged and spellcasting - you also will get that info from the old prof who is handing out the cards. Anyone who got the item without reading: Reading helps a lot, try to understand the ABC prior to accusing people of misinformation.

Edited, Wed Aug 10 03:44:23 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

It would be soooo cool to have 2x of these AND lifestealing on both weapons (daggers) for a rogue. You could just keep the opponent stunlocked and if he gets the chance to do dmg on you, you'll get the hp back very quickly. Also rogues will no longer need any healing in long instances :P

Comentado por Allakhazam

The Darkmoon faire doesnt come to Goldshire until 7th of August, tho it is in Mulgore as we speak, so is there anyway to deliver a deck in Mulgore, as an Alliance character? ^^

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just got this trinket today on my shaman. The procrate seems to about even with crusader, and it heals me for about 400 HP every proc, critting for about 550-600 I'm satisfied with this trinket, it's pretty much what I expected.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Can anyone with the trinket confirm whether or not it procs with spells?

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is a great trinket, but for the price(which was around 450g) It's debatable whether its really worth it. Procs a couple times a battle for rogues but because of the lack of any healing gear It heals what it should..which isnt extremely good. Of course, right now I'm farming on level 54-56 casters so ill repost when i fight something worthwhile.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Okay listen up,
it clearly states
Darkmoon Card: Heroism
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket Miscellaneous
Requires Level 60
Equip: Sometimes heals bearer of 120 to 180 damage when damaging an enemy in melee.
Dots = NOT MELEE,
Ranged = NOT MELEE,
Rogues + Wars + Palies = MELEE! (maybe shammies but i play alliance)
Rogues
The very fact that they have evaision makes this trinket worth it...
ive seen some good 60's with 40+ evaision. so first of all they aint getting hit often, they can stunlock you for a while and get free hits off, they have instant hit abilities and etcs... crusader//lifestealing + Trinket = Rape?
Warriors
For prot wars this is useless, for arms its debatable but not worth my time. For fury Warriors... well h4x... With high agi, and everytime they whitedmg crit they gain 30% attack speed for 3 hits... (trolls can beserk too) bloodthirst... etc... Warriors with this trinket can be gaining upwards to 500 life per minute.
Slap crusader or lifestealing on this and well... you got a monster.
i made a 29 twink warrior who used dual crusader daggers 1.8 every 30 seconds or so i get at least 1 proc, every 2 minutes id get at least one double proc, so thats like 500 life right there. but thats in 2 minutes, that is quite some time remember that when you have 3-4 mobs beating down on you. if i had this trinket well i would be the shiznit to say the least.
Druids
Well if your a feral druid, its not hard to slap on some +healing and do like what im about to mention for palies..... (see palies)
Paladins
First of all i hate paladins.. but... With all thier +healing... ive seen the 235 healing dmg 2h mace, throw on +55 healing on that, 30 healing to bracer, 20 to gloves that +350 healing right there with 3 chants and a weapon, not taking in consideration the rest of thier gear. so now, a well decked palie has a goot +600~1000 healing, add this to your little 120-180 and thats 720~1180 healing NON-CRIT, that my friends is 1/4th of your life.

Point proven, not a useless trinket, you just need to know how to "use" it.
either you spam proc chances with speed, or you use a slow 2h and stack healing.
for ALL CASTERS//HUNTERS IT IS USELESS!

Enough bable, FFS learn to read, and learn to use your brains a little.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got my Deck 60 war with Arcanite Champion with crusader as well. I do plenty of damage I'm MS spec. So I heal just as good as deal damage. Highest crit so far is 5512.

Comentado por Allakhazam

how much is sometimes in precentage?

Comentado por Allakhazam

That item is like a free crusader enchant that heals for more and doesn't have the strength proc. Not as bad as all you people think it is.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Both Hunters and Rogues DW, and the OH weap misses a lot. However, imagine if it worked with spells like Pigre said, then it would also be a great mage trinket. 30 targets while attacking a Graveyard in AV with Blizzard as it slows and overall hits them even more......That's a lot of healing. :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Maybe a little for shamans with a magma totem a but not much else. Unless i missed something!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Blackhands much rather have and my insignia of the horde sorry this *!@# blows.... i use dw crusaders on my rogue for the dmg not the healing lifestealing dw heals more ... alot more. 40% chance seems to be
as a dw dagger lifesteal is very nice for farming btw.

And to post before why waiste omney obn that healing trinket if your a war 115-200 is &*!@ hp like nothing.....
BTW WOW makes these #$%^ty trinkets becuase if they were used in proper conjunction they do decent increases in hp and such... never worth the sacrifice of dmg or crit rate or hp or agi,intel,spi.. all in all WOW programers are tard rangers.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I have a 10/32/9 warrior (being MT in MC ive got the usuals ;) parry, anticipation ect)

With eskanders roght and left, both with life steal enchants, grinding is a complete dream, often you can come out of a battle with more HP than when u went in (not elites obviously)

In PvP, I'm weaker than what I was with the AR, MS spec, but with this trinket and the elementals trinket i think it could be a winner.

All I hope is that they are 2% or more proc rate :D 5% would be a dream

Comentado por Allakhazam

Hi, sry for my stupid questions, but I know nothing regarding the Darkmoon Faire:

1) does anyone know when the Darkmoon Faire will take place in TB?

2) And is in the Darkmoon Faire of TB (I'm a Tauren) where I can by the last card to complete the Trinket?

Comentado por Allakhazam

This set is godly on Loatheb. Trust me, it is.

Comentado por Allakhazam

blizz MUST realize how useless this is to any class other than a tank class...

Comentado por Allakhazam

on how this works and how often you get that effect, say per minute, this may well be worth it for about any class.

Eg. for my Warlock, Siphon Life and the rest of the dots, then wanding away for some procs of this... or draining Life if you don't have to actually hit the enemy using melee or ranged attacks.

Of course, classes with rather low hitpoints will get more benefit of that.

Also, don't forget this is a trinket, not a weapon enchant so you can't directly compare these. Would about make as much sense as comparing a chest piece with a bracer.

Comentado por Allakhazam

If the proc is with an "attack" surely is also for Warlock... with all the dots working, and with the possibility to put dots on more people or mobs, the chance of proc i greatly increased, since every second i have more then 2 hits on the enemy.

So in a pvp raid contest, with more then 6-7 dots spammed all around, icant imagine how many healing i receive from this card.

Since is not clear how it works we can only imagine, btw if it really works with every kind of attack, surely i'd work to get it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

It procs when you get hit like invulenerable mail therefore making it only good for warriors possible rogues

Comentado por Allakhazam

I have it now on the Warsong EU server and just have to wait for the faire to come to town!

Hope I'm not waiting too many months :E

Comentado por Allakhazam

This on a warrior wearing the Unstopable force and hand of justice = wtfpwnt, you can disagree, but its beyond true :D

Comentado por Allakhazam

You guys are just fools if you write off shamans. Do you realize how much mail +healing gear there is in the game? And that it augments *any* heal, including crusader, including this? I run around with 4k hp, 6.1k mana, and my crusader heals me for about 350, and crits for about 500. With a 1 hand, it procs like all hell. Crusader also heals LESS than this does, meaning i'd probably get healed for 400 a proc when it goes of, because I have items like cauterizing band, and talents like purification. Couple that with my mail, malistar's defender, and you see where this is going.

Best for a shaman, period. BTW I already have the entire deck, I'll get back to y'all on how often it procs and how hard it owns.

Edited, Tue Aug 2 11:28:20 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ive seen people say its healed for more than it says....... does equipment that increases healing done by spells and effects increase this? If so this has more of an advantage on healing classes, and not melee.

Edited, Tue Aug 9 05:54:25 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

not unless you can find a lot of crazy people to clear the area while you turn in the deck. Although if you are a tank then it just might be worth it. ;)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Maybe the Porc-rate makes it an Epic item

Comentado por Allakhazam

as a hunter this is a great trinket, but on EU dragonmaw the completed decks are currently being bandied around for 6-800G and for that kind of money I would expect a lot better!

lets hope the decks & cards come down in price as more are droppped...

Comentado por Allakhazam

Clearly rogue or Dual-Wielding Fury Warrior trinket.

Comentado por Allakhazam

imagine 2 weapons with crusader + this trinket, and watch your health go from 100 to 500 or more in only a few hits :) i dont say it procs often, but if you have 3 healing procs on your equip, it must work nicely

Comentado por Allakhazam

Guess it's both good for rogues and hunters. One side a rogue gains a greater benefit from this item because of DW, but a hunter will be able to formally get a Crusader on his/her bow. That's great I think. However, the reward from the Elements Deck seems to be better at first sight.

It seems that these days Blizzard is trying to build on high speed weapons. Have a look at the Stormshroud Set's new bonus, plus add this to the formula. Each has an "Chance On Attack" proc...

Comentado por Allakhazam

it is probably strictly time based chance just for being engaged in combat. i doubt it has anything to do with frequency of attacks since it doesnt say "on attack" similar to procs say "on hit" this game does several things like this such as armor damage is based on being in combat, not based on being hit. As a mage i have taken armor damage while a mob was frost novaed away from me.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Shammies could benefit a little with some dmg totems and their one dot spell. But not enough to make it worth anything i think!

Comentado por Allakhazam

ok i have allthe cards to get this minus the ace..

i am a lvl 60 rogue btw,

i am an assas / sub build

what amount on average will be healed each fight... ( plz only respond if u know firsthand..

sorry but i want to know weather i should get this or just exchange it for the elementals..

EDIT: pity its unique tho ^_^ 2 of these on a rogue with slice and dice and nice fast weapons with life steal and ull be unstoppable...

Edited, Fri Jul 29 12:51:55 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ya this is a useless trinket cuz of the crappy amount of healing that is done but has most use for rogues/DW warriors i supose...still a pretty useless trinket

Comentado por Allakhazam

What are you talking about, this item is great!
...If you're level 20. Sadly, at leve, 60 it's not even enough to repair a single hit. Why do trinkets suck so hard? They should be worth spending the time to get them.

Comentado por Allakhazam

where does the quest starting item drop? any1 know?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Does anyone know if this procs on melee attack or ALL attacks....i.e. ranged attacks.

I have assembled an elementals deck and in PvP i melee more than i would like to so an extra 2-300 dmg would be a nice defense and also nice to take out would be flag carriers who i constantly spam wing clip on.

If the warlords one procs on ALL attacks i may consider trading my deck for a warlord one....or at least the ace of warlords.

-Choctaw (Bronzebeard)

Edited, Tue Aug 2 08:11:58 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

This trinket is a pure crap , dont work with spells and ranged attack (im a hunter) just bought that @#$% for nothing ,its only melee.The heal is really 120 to 180 but crit for ~ 225. This trinket need a better description and some ameliorations too.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Heh just found the ace in AH for 10 gp. I realize the droprate has been increased - but 10 gp is a nice deal :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

imho don't bother with procs at all. Where you have a proc on an item, whether it be from the item or an enchant, it is being sacrificed for stats. Where combat rogues are concerned, there are only three things to consider....stats stats and stats! Why have a 'might do some extra damage if it wants to' buff when you can have +10 agility? A combat rogue is all about sustained dps. The more traditional rogue is about high chance to crit. In either case, more stats will help you more than any proc. Going only on stats, my rogue has >4k health and a 20% chance to crit. I'd prefer to know that one in 5 hits will crit than to hope that a proc might fire. I'd prefer to have the extra 120hp than hope that a proc might give me it back.

Only my opinion. I have been known to be wrong. If you find me wrong please give evidence rather than inflamatory remarks. Evidence through discussion makes us all better at the game. Inflamatory remarks hurt feelings and make the flamer seem like a spoiled child (which they usually are, whether 12 yrs old or 40 yrs old).

Comentado por Allakhazam

depends proc per hit or proc per minute?

Comentado por Allakhazam

damn... lotsa stoopid people about...
Everyone sayin omg this is so crap coz of the small amount of healing it does....

Try taking into account that it should proc MORE THAN ONCE IN A FIGHT....

as a pally im gonna use this to replace judgement/seal of light when soloing...

Jol/Sol and this trinket and my Quel'sarrar? Man, im never gonna heed a heal again 8)

Comentado por Allakhazam

This would be ok on a tank with a fast as hell weapon.

Comentado por Rysie

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