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Comentado por asjova

As of patch 2.0.1 this quest gains you 75 Wintersaber Trainers reputation per turn in.

Comentado por Thottbot

At Neutral this give approx. 1.6% of the faction bar (used a numerical reputation interface mod to see this). At this rate, the quest will need to be repeated 62 times to get to friendly.

However, to get the spiffy mount, the quest giver says he will sell only to the most exalted buyer (neutral > friendly > honored > revered > exalted).

Normally, faction accumulation rates slow down when you reach a higer rank. True, there are two higher quests obtainable as your faction goes up, but if the furbolg quests are any indication, it will give the same faction boost.

So how many times do you need to do these quests? 250? 500? 1000? More?

For that, the mount should outpace a griffon!

Comentado por Thottbot

Here's how it works...

You start Neutral and receive .0166% rep bonus for each quest turned in. The only quest available is the Frostsaber Provisions one where you have to collect meat from the Chimera and Bears. Half way through Neutral (exactly 30 quests), the NPC unlocks a second quest for you. This is the Winterfall Intrusion quest. 30 more of either quest will get you into Friendly.

Once you work your way through Friendly (.0083% rep bonus) and get to Honored (.00415% rep bonus), the NPC unlocks a third quest for you. This is the Giants quest in south Winterspring. You are required to kill only 8 of the lvl 59-60 elite giants but they're further away and most likely can not be soloed. There's really no point in taking the extra time and effort to do this one unless you want to try for some nicer items (Yes, they drop much nicer than the furbolg).

Each bar of reputation that you earn cuts the reputation bonus in half. 60 quests to get Friendly, 120 to get Honored, 240 to get revered. All-in-all, you'll have to do 420 of the quests to get ELIDGIBLE for the mount.

None of the quests offer a larger rep bonus upon turn in and none of the mobs offer rep bonus upon killing. The only way to get rep bonus is at quest turn in.

So if that isn't enough of a kick-in-the-pants, just think that you won't even be 1/2 done with the quest until you're 25% into Honored. :)

Most don't even start, a lot quit after a while, but I'm in it for the long haul. Cya on my new mount.

Comentado por Thottbot

Arem's post is only half of the story. You must get to exalted, which is another 420 quests that needs to be completed.

Comentado por Thottbot

Im still curious as to if its "free" or you have to buy it.. looked on a few other remarks about it some say you have to guy others say other wise and it seems asking a GM or blizzard rep doesn't help cause they don't answer you.. im thinking for such a crazy quest line of killing and rep gaining each quest that it would be free but blizzard has yet to shock me with some of the stuff they put in here as of yet. im currently working on it and knowing if it was free or not would really make me want to do it more or like wise. if anyone ever finds out or someone that has actually aquired one within this time i would like any info you have. ^^ thanks.

Comentado por Thottbot

Reputation works like this... 3000 rep in neutral, 6000 rep in friendly, 12000 rep in honored, and 21000 rep in revered. Now, when you start this, you can ONLY do the first quest, which is get 5 meat from the chims and the bears each(10 meat total). The meat are a drop rate, so you have to kill more than 10 total of course... depends on your luck. The second quest I think u get it at half neutral, and u get the same rep as the first and third quest... 50 rep. 55 if you are human. So to get the second quest, you need to do the first quest 1500/50 times which is 30 times. The second quest has you kill ursa and shamans which are NOT skinnable, but you will get BEYOND a lot of firewater which is cool. :) This is the quest everyone pretty much does because u can do it solo or in a group for the same rep. So expect to do this second quest (1500 + 6000 + 12000 + 21000)=40500rep/50rep= 810 times to get to exalted. Unless you are human, where it is 737 times. If you are a human you need to also get exalted with Darnassus though, which will involve a few hundred gold in runecloth, and unfortunately winterfall mobs don't drop that. Also, by killing winterfall mobs u get 5 rep with timbermaw furbs per normal kill and 25 for the boss normally. So if you actually do that, u should get 50 timber rep per quest run without the boss so your rep for both factions should go up about the same. However it depends, because u start less than neutral with the timber depending how busy you were in Felwood before that.

Comentado por Thottbot

1: this mount ***IS NOT FREE*** it is 800g if you're a sergeant, 900g if you are not.
2: If you are not a NE, you must also get exhalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding to use the mount, this guy WILL NOT teach you to ride it.

Decide for yourself if its worth the trouble

Comentado por Thottbot

I can say these things truthfully:

I am a night elf.

I get 50 rep points for turning in the 10 meat.

Over the last 12 turnins, the drop rate for a piece of meat averages between 6 to 7 kills.

Yesterday I turned in 3 times; ended up with 119 rugged leather, 39 chimura leather, 24 wearbear leather and 2 green items which I sold in AH for 9 gold.

I got the quest at level 58 and I am level 60 as of last week and all i've done is killed bears and chimuras.

Its tedious, but when I get to 1500 (should be by next week) I will let you know what happens to the quest.

For those who asked: he will not teach you to ride a saber, you have to go to Darnassas for that. That also includes getting rep points there.

Comentado por Thottbot

Im at 1400 of 3000. going from 900 to 1200 wasnt bad. I had a Great server day. meat was dropping almost every 3rd kill. I stopped at 1200, I ended up with 150 skins and made almost 70 gold selling and repairing items.

1200 to 1400 was a bit of a chore. I think I ended up killing 14 bears or chimura before the first meat dropped. I considered dropping the quest and starting it again because it was almost rediculous. Every bear I skinned was giveing me warbear something (sorry, cant rmeember which warbear fur it gives) again, I though wow..12 in a row now. Im looking for rugged leather, that sells the best. Took 4 hours to get enough to make 4 turn-ins. That was rough.

I will do another round probably Friday so my update next week will let everyone know what the quest does at 1500. I read one post stating it changes. Ill let you know.

sorry for the tease, but 4 hours of bears and chimura killings really tanked!

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm currently doing Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion (unlocked very recently) to gain reputation with Wintersaber Trainers.

I use the Frostsaber Provisions quest to get leather and use this for making Rugged Armor kits for the Darkmoon Faire turn-in, and I also kill a few Owls along the way for Vibrant Plumes (also Darkmoon Faire turn-in).

Now that furbolgs drop Runecloth (since Patch 1.9) you can theoretically use the second Wintersaber Trainers quest to earn Darnassus reputation if you need Tiger Riding, and collect the beads they drop for Timbermaw reputation at the same time.

So if you haven't already got Darnassus, Timbermaw and Darkmoon Faire reputation this quest and the second one offered by the Wintersaber Trainers are one way of building 4 reputations at the same time, albeit in a painstakingly repetitive manner.

Comentado por Thottbot

Thanks for the 4at once update. I didnt know about the Dark Moon fair turnins..

I made 1500 and as soon as I turned in that last bit of meat a 2nd quest is now available for rep points.

Winterfall Intrusion

Obtained at level 60 Alliance
Rivern Frostwind wants you to slay 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa.

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=5201/invasão-dos-invernosos

Good thing is I can still do the meat quest (which yesterday I was averaging 1 drop ever 5 kills)

by far easier is killing the ursa and shaman's. I had a bit of competition after my 3rd turnin but I did 4 turnin's in a two hour period, vs 2 with the meat. the last turn in I did the meat too, which gave me 100 rep points.

I noticed killing the ursa and shamans my rep for the Timbermaw Hold was also going up. BONUS!

so take the advise from FantasyMeister in the above post.

you can do pretty well here.

Oh, just so you know, I had 4 Level 52-55 greens and 3 gold drop in 4 runs. I bet I made 7 gold from the junk they also dropped, which I sold. All told, not a bad day. Im going to add feathers and Ill make a few rugged patches too, since I got 64 rugged skins off the meat part of the quest yesterday.

Ill let you know when something changes.

Comentado por Thottbot

I quote:

by Keliahn

Last edit: 3.6 months ago 1: this mount ***IS NOT FREE*** it is 800g if you're a sergeant, 900g if you are not.

2: If you are not a NE, you must also get exhalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding to use the mount, this guy WILL NOT teach you to ride it.

Decide for yourself if its worth the trouble

Comentado por Thottbot

if people would read ..

Here's how it works...

You start Neutral and receive .0166% rep bonus for each quest turned in. The only quest available is the Frostsaber Provisions one where you have to collect meat from the Chimera and Bears. Half way through Neutral (exactly 30 quests), the NPC unlocks a second quest for you. This is the Winterfall Intrusion quest. 30 more of either quest will get you into Friendly.

Once you work your way through Friendly (.0083% rep bonus) and get to Honored (.00415% rep bonus), the NPC unlocks a third quest for you. This is the Giants quest in south Winterspring. You are required to kill only 8 of the lvl 59-60 elite giants but they're further away and most likely can not be soloed. There's really no point in taking the extra time and effort to do this one unless you want to try for some nicer items (Yes, they drop much nicer than the furbolg).

Each bar of reputation that you earn cuts the reputation bonus in half. 60 quests to get Friendly, 120 to get Honored, 240 to get revered. All-in-all, you'll have to do 420 of the quests to get ELIDGIBLE for the mount.

None of the quests offer a larger rep bonus upon turn in and none of the mobs offer rep bonus upon killing. The only way to get rep bonus is at quest turn in.

So if that isn't enough of a kick-in-the-pants, just think that you won't even be 1/2 done with the quest until you're 25% into Honored. :)

Most don't even start, a lot quit after a while, but I'm in it for the long haul. Cya on my new mount.

Comentado por Thottbot

I was bored the other day so I travel to WS because I noticed my friend is farming. He tells me what hes doin so I join him. Wow this is nice...5 meats for two types of mobs to be eligeable for a frostsaber mount. Then the reality hit me and I find out I have to do the same quests X number of times until I make the faction revered?

WTF? Are you kidding me? What clown at blizzard made up this fabulous idea? At least with the tier .5 quests you are in a dungeon most of the time and any undead killed can yield scourge stones. But to farm the same redundant quests over 60 times just to get the next part of the chain which eventually leads to the ABILITY to buy an epic mount? Im not feeling it.

The only exception to this rule would be its more special than a standard epic mount, slightly faster, summons faster , allows you to other abilities on it (like cast) or something. I mean why do this (other than for faction) when you can run Stratholme Scarlet Side get the chance for righteous orbs (which go for 50g+ on the AH) and get your money and just go buy an epic moount from the vendor?

I will say hats off and applause for anyone that has the tenacity to do this and then spend the money to buy this Frostsaber mount.

Comentado por Thottbot

I did one of these turn-ins today, and it gave me 75 rep as opposed to the usual 50, so I'm assuming this was changed as of the patch.

Comentado por Thottbot

I got this mount on my main and am currently working on the quest series again for my alt!

The mount is the only EPIC mount in game for alliance that only requires riding skill 75 (w/ the patch even the PVP mounts require a riding skill of 150)

and its cost is (or was) 90g for me..but since i had exalted darnassus rep i'd imagine the correct cost is 100g (if you don't have the discount associated w/ rep)

The fact that it only requires riding skill 75 DOES NOT appear to be a bug to me...but rather planning on Bliz's part to reward those who actually complete the rep grind!

(I completed it under the old rep of 50 per turn in on my main....only reason i'm considering doing again is because of the 50% increase in rep per turn in, i.e. going from 50 to 75, and the fact that my alt is human and will receive a bonus on top of that per turn in)

Indigomoon-Llane

Comentado por Thottbot

at this moment, 1,2 years after all the previous posts, i get 75 rep per quest turn in instead of 50, meaning that you only have to do the quests ( 2/3 out of 420 = ..) 280 times now, still an awefull lot of running around though :)

Comentado por Thottbot

Is it still 75 (see above post) or did they raise it?

Comentado por Allakhazam

wow. this quest is So not worth it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Until a recent patch (2 patches ago), there was a bug that allowed people with NO faction to purchase the mount for 1000g. (increased price due to no faction discount)

This is a fact, I know of people who did this, and they have not had their tigers taken away after the bug was fixed.

It is my belief that nearly every person who riding a wintersaber got it through this bug, I'm sure there are a few that actually took the time to farm the faction (well over a month of farming an average of 12 hours/day), but I think the legitimate ones are very rare...

Comentado por Allakhazam

what is req lvl to start this quest?

Comentado por Allakhazam

I think the provisions quest is slightly bugged...or Blizz is evil...or I'm crazy. The following has happened about 20 times now. I complete the Winterfall Intrusion and the meat provisions gathering quests and run all the way to the trainer at the top of Frostsaber rock. When I got there, I tried to turn in both quests, but somehow some of the meat I'd gathered was missing. I noticed that this happened when the blue and white striped Pridewatcher had attacked me at the base of Frostsaber rock. Was he stealing some of the meat I'd gathered? The first few times this happened, I just thought I'd made a mistake and run back too soon, but then I really started paying attention to make sure I had all the provisions gathered, and still sometimes I'd be missing meat at the top of the rock.

Has this happened to you?

Comentado por Allakhazam

I've been pulling my info off Thottbot for this particular grind. Last night, like the other Draenei who posted, I hit exalted and discovered I could not buy the mount.

I called a GM. After 45 minutes of waiting, someone closed my ticket without talking with me.

So I opened another ticket. I was answered by a very rude GM who told me "Too bad, you should research better and see if you met your requirements. I can't check for you." He then gave me the WoW forums address, then logged.

After Googling today I found this thread and saw the similar Draenei complaint. It took me a month of hard grinding to do this and hit Exalted. Needless to say I'm deeply disappointed.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Has this mount changed with the patch? does it now have armor? I hope i havent been wasting my time doing this to get a unarmored cat. If this cat is armored im going to pull my hair out!

Comentado por Allakhazam

I went to the sight where the quest giver is and the spot where he should have been was emoty he wasn't anywhere around. Might be a bug due to the expansion, anyone else have the same problem. I just want to improve my rep.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ok, first off, be prepared for a long, long grind to be able to purchace this mount. If you're already interested in getting this mount, you probably have your own reasons...whether you want it to look cool to everybody else, or just feel (like myself) that this is the only Epic saber mount that doesn't look cheesy as hell with the ridiculous armor and costume jewelry looking crystals on it. Not only that, but this is one of the few (if not the only) Epic mount that requires only a 75 riding skill. Yes, that's right..instead of having to pay the price of 150 riding skill and the price of an epic mount...you only have to pay for the mount (provided of course that you already have purchased the training for the normal lvl 40 mount)

The journey starts with Rivern Frostwind who is hanging out on top of frostsaber rock, with his pet frostsaber. The first quest he gives you is this one, where you must get 5 each chillwind and shardtooth meat. Make sure you grind the Chillwind Ravagers, and Elder Shardtooths...located in the northeast of Winterspring for the meat. Droprate on these averages between 20% and 50% allowing for completion of each turn in to take between 10-20 mins each, and giving you 75 rep.

Around halfway through Neutral, you will be able to pick up the next quest "Winterfall Intrusion", and I would reccomend sticking with this quest for the remainder of the grind. And here's why...

1. This quest requires you to kill Winterfall Furbolgs, which will also increase your Timbermaw rep

2. It's easier than the next quest in the chain, but still gives you the same rep

I would also reccomend getting a group together to do this quest...if for nothing more than to prevent being bored to tears lol

So, how long of a grind is it? Well....lets just say you better really really want this mount.

Each quest turn in gives you 75 rep, in the opening text he tells you, you must be exaulted in order for him to sell you the mount, and you start off at 0 rep into neutral.

so...

3000 (neutral) +
6000 (friendly) +
12000 (honored) +
21000 (Revered)
-----------------
42000 total reputation

If you're not human (if so you get about 82.5 rep per quest)it would take you a total of 560 turn-ins to go from neutral to exalted. If you do this quest 20 times (to get to halfway through neutral) that means you have to do "Winterfall Intrusion" 540 times to get to exalted.

So yeah, its going to be a chore...but like all chores is more fun doing with friends, and some good music. Both of these I reccomend highly, unless you have alot more determination than I. lol

Comentado por Allakhazam

Zero xp, no reward, and he offers the quest again. Looks like it's broken to me. :(

Comentado por Allakhazam

NE only though...if you look at the reins (after doing the quest 5 billion times if it shows up at vender) it requires tiger riding(1). Good luck getting that if your not a NE for the time being, I think it's impossible to learn as you can't get revered.

Just an FYI for all you wouldbe gnomes, dwarfs and humans trying to get this mount.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Couple-three reasons.

(1) The purple and white cat looks hella cool.
(2) I wrote an AddOn that says a random quotation when you mount, and supposedly it will choose from different lists for different mounts. Now, I could just go to Merethil Harbor and get another horse. But what fun is that?
(3) As a Blacksmith, I need to get my rep up with Timbermaw Hold to purchase their recipes. The second quest means I can build rep in two areas at once.

I was a little disenheartened to learn that the meat (probably) wonb't drop after you achieve the quest goals; the Timbermaw turn-in quests allow you to stockpile feathers and beads and turn them in en masse. But, unless they change it in 2.1.0, that just means that no one else will get one easily. I can take a liittle (a lot of) grinding to get something cool, especially when I get XP, a few greens, and rep out of it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Well, I just half an hour ago reached Exalted with the faction.

However, I discovered that because I am a Draenei I can't buy the mount. And yes, this information came from a GM, who told me the bug is being fixed in the next patch, and that the new races not being able to do a lot of stuff the others can is top priority.

I did two more turn ins before I was answered by the GM, and he also told me that just being Exalted should be enough, meaning there shouldn't be any need to get the Exalted rank to maximum.

I'm a little annoyed heh, after all the constant weeks of grinding, and having to stop because of the Easter school holidays and the kids all over the game for two weeks, even at 3am in the morning (I tried to get things done then), I now can't get the mount that is mine.

I was hoping I could say I'm the first person to get the mount on the new Anachronos (European) server (without transferring that is).

I might as well max out the reputation rank while I wait.

Mortanius (Theonar, Draenei Shaman, on Anachronos).

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is an INSANE quest... 45 kills not one peice of meat dropped. with needing 5 per turn in, and close to 100 turn in's. *pulls out hair*

Comentado por Allakhazam

This quest begins with the NPC at the top of Frostsaber rock, the northernmost tip of Winterspring. You MUST be at least 58 to begin this quest. Your faction begins at 0 Neutral with him, and the purpose of the quest is to get exalted with the Wintersaber Trainers in order to purchase a mount not available in Darnassus. This mount is a purple and white striped sabercat. Tiger Riding is needed to ride this mount, which means you must be either a Night Elf, or have Exalted faction with Darnassus and purchase the tiger riding ability.

This is the first of a chain of quests available, and all continue to be available even after reaching the different reputation stages.

For Frostsaber provisions, the best place to farm is just south and east of the frostsaber area, just down the eastern hill from the road. 5 Meats from Chillwind, 5 meats from shardtooth bears. However, the meat can be gotten from any chimaera or bear in Winterspring. Each turn in gains 50 reputation.

For Winterfall Intrustion, which begins at exactly halfway into Neutral faction, which is 1500 of 3000 reputation. The best place to do this quest is in the Winterfall Village, east of Everlook. Each quest turn in gains 50 reputation.

The next stage of the series, Rampaging Giants, begins at honored reputation. It asks you to kill 8 Giants that are at the southern end of winterspring, in the Frostwhisper Gorge area. These giants are level 59 and 60 elite. The quest asks for 4 Frostmaul Giants, and 4 Frostmual Preservers to be killed. A group of 2 or more will be nice, and the trip will be long. Many who have attained exalted faction on my server have skipped this quest as each turn in still only yields 50 reputation, and is double the distance to travel. Others opted to go in a group and kill the giants, then sweep through the winterfall village thus completing that quest as well, yielding 100 reputation per run in doing both quests.

At Revered faction, a level 40 ridable mount is available for 90g. This is NOT the epic speed mount. Once Exalted faction is reached, as it stands currently, the Epic saber you can purchas is 900g, just like all other epic mounts. This quest has become mostly for status instead of being a cheaper option for an epic mount.

Edited, Wed Nov 2 15:20:43 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

sorry, the drop rate is better than 20%. I did the quest 3 times in a hour last night. It may have something to do with where you are grinding for the meat drops. I'm doing it to the east of the frostsaber rock where the elder bears are. I tried the area just to the south of everlook and the drop rate was lower.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Does this quest work similar to other quests in the drops?

For instance, in other quests, even if you've reached the amount you need, the quest item continues to drop until you actually turn in the quest.

If I have 5 and 5, but continue to kill bears and chillwinds, will the meat continue to drop?

If this is the case, you don't need to go back after each set of 5. You can continue to farm, and once you've got 100 of each or so, turn them in (2 sets of 5) one quest set at at time.

Possible? Plausible? Incorrect?

Comentado por Allakhazam

strange droprate...
at allakhazam and thottbot theres a ~20% droprate for both kind of meat.. but i need around 100 kills each run for everything.. last run took 150 kills.. thats horrible :(

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'm too cheap to pay for epic mount, so I decided to grind for the mount. I tried before with my pre TBC 60 human warrior awhile back, but got bored and quit after 1 day of grinding.
This time I am grinding for my 65 draenei shaman. I have couple of incentive for grinding this time.
1. I can skin for money.
2. Mob level 57+ still gives me some experience, so it is not a total waste of time.
Will keep post updated.

4-15-2007
I started the grind and. I do about 3 to 4 turn in per hour. Some times the drop rate is pretty bad. It is been 4 hrs and I'm 900/3000 into neutral.
4-16-2007
I though killing furblog would be faster, but too many people farm there. That and getting gank from horde.
4-20-2007
didn't grind much, but half way into friendly. I find doing both quests not a good idea. I can do winterfall intrusion in 8 mins, thats from killing 5 shamans 5 ursa and turn it in then hearth back. I don't have mount, I use ghost wolf with GM boot that gives me total of 55% travel speed. Collecting meat takes me 15-20 mins average. For a shaman sticking with winterfall intrustion and using both hearth stones is better in long run.

Edited, Apr 17th 2007 12:17am by okiedookie

Edited, Apr 21st 2007 2:43am by okiedookie

Comentado por Allakhazam

So... Blizzard encourages farming. :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

The quest raises your reputation with wintersaber trainers.

Notice he says, " i won't just sell the mount to anyone."

Presumeably this is a level 60 mount reputation raising line, for "Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber."

http://www.thottbot.org/beta.cgi?i=29884

It must be done A LOT to get rep high enough. If I remember right it is a sizeable discount over the level 60 mount price, like half. At least one player, a gnome, got this in beta.

Currently this would be the only way for a non night elf to ride a cat mount, since you can't get exhalted to the main city factions. The quest is alliance only.

Evidently no one has completed the faction raising enough to get the mount in final retail, either here or on thottbot.

Edited, Thu Jan 20 05:15:10 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

sry double post

Edited, Mon Apr 4 18:50:37 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

I've just started this one. Looks to take a while. I've already learned two things that I haven't seen written in the forums.

The first thing I learned, is that if it weren't for the leather, this would be a giant waste of time. If I didn't have 300 skinning, I don't think I'd bother with this monumental grind. I'm a level 60 Shadowpriest and the Frostsabers aggro on me from far away. So far I've never been able to go through here without pulling at least eight, sometimes as many as fifteen Frostsabers. The first time I tried to turn in the provisions quest, I used the advice of many forum posts and just tried to ride quickly through. After pulling about seven tigers, I was dazed off my mount and had seven lvl 59 and 60 Frostsabers ripping me apart. I lived, but it was close. I had about 3 health left. Now, when I go in, I walk. And if a tiger aggros on me I kill it. No running, no riding, just a remorseless shower of shadow damage on these very aggressive tigers.

I can't wait to get the next quest level in this grind, when I'll be able to kill the winterfall firbolgs for faction with Frostsaber trainers. So the next thing I learned was to do both of these faction quests before returning to the trainers. Every forum post here on Allakazam, also on Throtbot etc., says to only do the Provisions Quest until you can do the Winterfall Firbolgs, then to just do the Winterfall quest. That's dumb!

From Frostsaber Rock, I go East SE (about 4:00 O'Clock on the map) and kill off all the Elder Shardtooths, and the Chillwind Chimaeras. They are all grouped together, pretty close to the quest turn in point. This takes about 4 kills per meat. That's approximately 40 kills. Since they are all level 57 to 60 mobs, at level 60 I get pretty good xp for doing this. I also get lots of leather, and a chance at some decent drops. Once I get to the next stage of faction quest in Winterfall Village, I'll collect my meat, as above, then kill my Firbolgs in Winterfall, then head back to Frostsaber Trainer to turn in both quests. This way, I only have to battle my way through the tigers twice to get 166 faction points.

I imagine, that once I get the third quest, I'll be about lvl 62, and I'll be able to solo the third faction quest, so by then I'll be turning in 3 quests per run. Which is 249 to 250 faction points per run. I'll also be making a lot in AH by selling lots of Rugged Leather. Unfortunately, Frostsaber Leather, Chimaera Leather, and Warbear leather is not at all in demand in my realm's AH. Other than that though, this is a good low 60s grinding quest if you have skinning and if you're willing to stick with it for a cool mount.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Oops, sorry for the double post.

Comentado por Allakhazam

As a Nightelf it took me 460 turn in sets to get the proper faction for the reins. Not a large faction boost at all with each turn in =(

There were/are 2 gnomes working on this as well, on my server, one of which already has the Darnassian faction needed and the tiger riding skill.

Comentado por Allakhazam

hi. I can't find the starting npc at the locations marked on the map. an exact loc or any other hint would be great!

Comentado por Allakhazam

I am on the quest right now and I was wondering as to what the mount would look like,is it like the one that is standing next to the dude?
If so,I think hey why not get the exp for fighting in the zone,although it sucks that you dont get any exp turn in reward.But the thing is,hey Im 59 might as well fight out there and get some exp and possibly a nice looking mount in the end.
Who knows?might be the envy of my friend LOL

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'm going to be working on this Mount soon. To begin the quest is lvl 60 Right? so bout 3 more lvl's. I have friend from my guild that's working on this quest to get the Mount, I think that mount is worth it, It's a really Pretty Frostsaber and Rare. I haven't seen anybody with it on our server yet. For those that say this mount isn't worth the trouble, In some minds no and some other yes. To me it is, I can grind on crap for ever and not get tired of fed up with. From lvl 40 to lvl 44 I grinded on turtles in Tanrais. I plan on doing a lot of grinding to get certain things. At lvl 60 this Mount will be the first. Then some time between lvl 60 and 70 I'm going be working to get the Teir 5 Destroyer Battlegear Armor, and The Gressil, Dawn of ruin and Talon of Azshara Sword's. It Well take me a long time to get them, but i don't care I want them so I will spend the time doing it. You have to have the want and urge to get things. IF you can't work to get something you want then you have no bussiness wanting it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

wintersabre trainers rep...

Comentado por Allakhazam

this was bugged for me on 10/30/05. i did the provisions quest. when i did the turn in, it said FrostSaber Provisions completed. Then, the next quest was the same Provisions quest again (bear and chiamera meat)

Comentado por Allakhazam

So the quest isn't worth it. Okay, stop doing it. Don't whine that Blizzard should make it easier. The Wintersaber Mount is a status quest. At level 60, what else have you got better to do than BG or raiding?

Players spend hours and hours, day after day, raiding to get Tier 2+ epic pieces. Why? Because it makes you uber. Because they look hella cool. Because you want your character to be AWESOME.

Hey look! Blizzard made a rare mount quest that's just as annoying to do as raiding. For those of you out there that care about having a cool lookin' character, here you go. For those that don't? Buy a regular mount. <smiles>

Comentado por Allakhazam

Like everyone else, I still have a life to run, and not a whole lot of time to be playing fetch for this NPC's quest. So until they come up with a better way of obtaining this mount, you might as well just get a regular mount.
Yea, yea, its different, but hey, I'm just expressing my feelings that this aint really that worth the time unless I had the ability to kill mobs in one hit.
If they give this NPC other options of turning in difffernt meats, or better rep rewards, then I might reconsider.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I am half way threw Revered and looking forward to getting the epic mount.. i started at lvl 60 and now 66.. just wanted to know if they changed when you can buy the lvl 40 mount in some of the posting below they said at revered he would sell a lvl 40 mount and i have not seen it for sell.. i don't want it, i want the epic mount.. i am turning in all 3 quest at a time and it is better then turning in just 2.Good Luck to everyone that is on this Quest...

Comentado por wowZhenek

Absolutely disgusting quest. Like, to be fair, ye, to be fair, this is arguably the worst part of the entire grind. Having to do it 30 times as a non-human is an absolute torture. Screw the large bear bones ....

Comentado por iteate

As of 1.11.2019 I have finished the greatest grind in my life. This grind took me 22 days to complete, 14 of those were in game.

So what did I do? I finished this grind by doing ONLY Frostsaber provisions. Why? Well you can't call that mount exactly your own if you did the grind with a group so i decided to do it solo. So there I was a level 58 human mage unknowing that this grind was going to be the longest one that i have ever done.

As was reaching that 1500/3000 point I thought about going into a group but then I started to feel guilty. I didn't want to feel like I was being boosted, I felt that the grind was supposed to be hard and that is surely was for me. At 1500 rep I tried the winterfall intrusion quest which was supposed to be the "fastest" quest, well it turns out that this is not the fastest quest out there if you are doing this solo so i continued my meat quests. Also i did not aoe grind because my talents were not right for that.

At 4000/6000 I saw in wowhead that you can collect these e'kos from the mobs if you do series of quests so i did those and started gaining e'kos

Each quest took me 10-45 minutes to complete and it was at neutral that i realized the full scale of grind that i was going into. I told myself that I WILL get this mount before p2 and I will not leave winterspring before that. I made myself rep goals so that each day i would grind 1650 reputation that would take me around 12 hours to complete and there would be no exceptions to that.

Did I mention that i didn't have a mount for the whole grind. I really really hate horses and I was a human. I got my Darnassus reputation to Exhalted at 4400/21000 with the money from the grays, greens and blues i vendored. I bought the tiger riding but i did not buy the mount because for me the wintersaber reputation was so close that it would have been waste of money so i continued without a mount.

At 9910/21000 I realized that I really should have taken skinning for this but at that point it was too late so i decided not to get it since i had valuable recipes on my enchanting and tailoring. At 19440/21000 I noticed that I will not be able to purchase the mount as soon as my reputation reaches exhalted.

In total I killed 19675 mobs in the meat quest area, 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa. Every kill was uploaded to wowhead database. from the vendor items i got around 1966g, Darnassus reputation took 1300g from that so i was left with 666g so i still have to grind money for the mount. With skinning total money from this would have been around 3736g with Firemaw-EU market prices.

Now you are probably wondering what loot did i get. I listed every notable drop down below
1x Olho da Chama
1x Armadura Andassonho
1x Orbe do Logro
2x Faixa Serpentina
2x O Apunhalador Pé-sombrio
1x Tocha de Austen
1x Mochila do Viajante
2x Matademônios
4x Mochila do Profissional
765x E'ko de Ventogelante
790x E'ko de Dentilhaço
and a full glorious set with extra set of pants

I did not sell those e'kos because they were going to me and my friends to use in raids because now I had a lifetime supply of those :D

IF i had skinning this would be the minimum leather amount.
lets say that I killed 50/50 of Chillwind ravager and Elder shardtooth you would skin about.

12788 Couro Rústico
1475 Couro Grosso
983 Pelego Rústico
4033 Couro de Quimera
1967 Couro de Urso de Guerra

Note that these calculations are not including the change to get multiple skins from single mob so those numbers will be higher.

I will tell you some tips and tricks here if you are crazy enough to try this.
- TAKE SKINNING. You will spend around 16 hours only skinning but the gold you get from this will be substantially higher.
- Bind your hearthstone to Everlook. When your bags are full you can hearthstone to a vendor and continue from there.
- Set yourself reputation goals for every day. This helped me a lot because i wanted to get this mount before p2 so i HAD to grind every day.
- A mount will not help you that much but it will get you to your destination faster.
- This grind will test your patience and your discipline heavily so be prepared for that.
-do your research before you go into this. I made the mistake by going in blind and I lost a lot.

This grind will not give you any good loot..yes i got an epic but those drop rates are so low that you should go in with the mindset that you wont get an epic.
only thing that get me going was that deadline that i made for myself. I respect everyone who got the mount but i truly respect anyone who did this grind alone.

If you ever see a mage named iteate on Firemaw-EU please remember that I did this grind the hardcore way so you don't have to.

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