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Comentado por LKolmir

Also good to note that they are the only mod that drops

Formula: Enchant Weapon - Crusader
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=16252

Which depending on how lucky you are can take from a few hours to a few days to farm.

Comentado por Kyren

There is another one that will spawn in the group of Scarlet before the right turn to the Hunter named NPC (forgot name, something along the lines of Huntsmaster Riley). it will path down out of the group of Scarlet Knights and Mages but will also sometimes evade bug. Usually however, it is replaced with an Avenger because the Avenger isn't cleared so it replaces the Spellbinder. There are 10 spawn locations total, 6 static and 4 that can be either an Avenger or Spellbinder

Comentado por Hyde

Many people spend months on months farming for the Enchant. There are always someone here most of the time farming it. Every time I have come I have seen someone. Most of the time it will be an un-guilded hunter or rogue that is a farmer. Most of the time you can negotiate with them to get the top or the bottom if they are same faction. Or just take one of them by killing all in there.

I farmed this area for about 1 hour and got an enchant and also a destiny from Durgen upstairs.

Comentado por frenchy

i got "Krol Blade" to drop from these guys as well on may 7th '07, but i didnt see it on the list of possible drops, i just wanted to let everyone know that you can get it here. it sells nice so..... gl!

Comentado por Thottbot

It took me only about 3 hours, but after killing them as fast as I could, I finally got it. I traded it even for the enchant. The enchanter supplied the mats, and now my Arcanite Reaper owns just that much more.

Comentado por Thottbot

Yeah, on Ravencrest it goes for around 90-100 g so.. not so stupid maybe

Comentado por Thottbot

On Shadowsong the price for the recipe itself is 400-600g and the enchant itself is 125-150g

Comentado por Thottbot

wat is the proc % for crusader?

Comentado por Thottbot

Under a weird coincidence i never got my crusader enchant formula from these guys and i spent about 6 hours grinding. However, i did manage to grab an Assassination Blade
This place is kinda hard actually because they spawn too quickly for me to take them out myself (lvl 58 resto druid) but if you go with a trusted friend you should be able to keep this place under wraps.

The tower is just south of Hearthglen. 2 Scarlet Avengers spawn out front, 3 Spell Binders at bottom of tower and 3 up top with a named that spawns at a faster rate then everything else. The named also patrols to the very bottom next to the Avengers.
Occaisionally an Avenger or Spellbinder pats the base of the tower and some walk up and down the whole road.

Good luck to you all!

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm about to start my 6th day of farming these guys. 15 hours, 900 runecloth later, and still no recipe.

I'm losing hope!

Comentado por Thottbot

I've been trying to camp this for a week, but every time I go there someone else is already camping it.

Comentado por Thottbot

around how much silver do these guys drop? nothing is better then a chance at the crusader recipe and a nice bit of silver

Comentado por Thottbot

damn i killed like 500 of these guys, and still it doesnt drop, its the hardest enchant i ever had to farm

Comentado por Thottbot

kk, some tips for the die hard farmers for crusader

1- get coffee ready , cause it will take a long time(unless your one of those lucky bastards who roll 100 much, find allot eppics etc)

2- dont let anyone be around you while farming, they may get hurt, cause you will get cranky!
(my smaller brother already learned that)

3- get something to do while waiting for freeking spawn
(i prefer my ds, while waiting)

well thats about it about the tips, i still havent found one scroll, did found a card, but i want crusader 8(
btw, this is the most boring farming i have done so far

Comentado por Thottbot

probably nice to pick herbs while u wait ;)

Comentado por Thottbot

I really dont like farming for this. Its tediously overcamped by everyone, I can only get a free tower at 1.00 am. The drop rate is rediculously low too.

The spellbinders are not easy kills for warriors. If you can get one on its own, it will go down in seconds, but in groups of 2 (and usually 3) they become a pain in your side. They spam frost nova and keep you in one place then they all back off and proceed to hit you with frostbolts. You then attempt to chase one down (too close for intercept) and you get another frost nova and the same thing happens again. When you finally get close enough the frost bolt debuff will slow your attacking and it takes a while to kill one. When you finally get one down, you move to another and go through the same ordeal, but now you notice you have next to no hp and cannot possible kill them both before you die (because all the while you are getting hit by a 200+ damage frost bolts every couple of seconds).

Then, if you are unfortunate enough to have one run away, they are difficult to catch before they run into and aggro another scarlet, due to frost nova/frost bolt.

Definately not melee friendly these guys.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Given a chance for the recipe to drop from a scarlet spellbinder, it would take (1-0.19)^N = 0.500 kills to have even odds of getting a drop. That makes N = 369.68.

Thus, you have to kill 369.68 Spellbinders to get even (1 : 1) odds of seeing crusader drop. If you can farm 35 spellbinders (bottom of tower only), it will take you about 10 Hours to have a 50/50 chance of getting the drop.

It might take one spellbinder, it might take one million spellbinders, but on the average, if you kill 369 of em, you'll get a crusder half the time.

Good Luck...

P.S.> I've killed at LEAST 1000 of them over a year with no drop. :P

Edited, Jul 31st 2006 at 8:14am EDT by Sorbe

Comentado por Allakhazam

2x crusader in 40 mins ! L2FARM naps

Comentado por Allakhazam

21 kills, got the formula...easy to kill the binders too

Comentado por Allakhazam

i originally said "ok i'm not going to farm more than 25 minutes"
when the 25 minutes were almost up i was surfing this page and reading other people's experiences and though "man it would be great to get it on the last mob just before i go.. that would be so awesome.. nah.. i'm too unlucky that'll never happen"
well the 25 minutes were almost up and i moved confidently towards the last spellbinder thinking "it WILL drop". of course, it didn't.
i did stay for another 5 minutes though and it dropped then :D
lucky me.. it's 200g in the AH

Comentado por Allakhazam

bah crusader wont drop for me any more:( im going to kill them 420,133 times now

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just got destiny from an avenger there lolol, whilei was aiming for crusader

Comentado por Allakhazam

woot 2 kills and i got Crusader and Two of Portals:O

Comentado por Allakhazam

No , don't hate you all really, just bemoaning my luck! Have so far done 33 hours grinding these, about 1300 kills i reckon, still no formula. Have been 300 enchanter for a while now, but waste of time if you can't get the formula's!
Looking down the loot list i have had many drops rarer the formula, just not a lucky guy i guess. By the way, on Executus the competition is not too bad, and most opposition players leave you alone, so more lucky in that respect.
Will not be giving up, will get it eventually, i hope, lol.
Frustration vented, now get on with your lives. :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Them are lvl 55-59 elites :/ so 50 rogue cant kill them easily

Comentado por Allakhazam

about 200 kills and crusader dropped

Comentado por Allakhazam

Crusader finally dropped! It can be done, plus if you're 60, you get the chance to gank mid-50's who run by here doing scarlet crusade quests or trying to take your farming area. Keep at it! The moment you see "You have received loot " your joy will be indescribable.

Comentado por Allakhazam

We just killed about 8 Spellbinders, 1 crusader for the mage ;) - They are easy to grind anyway, gl to you all :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

KIlled theese for the Crusader formula, got Lifestone and Krol Blade so far but no damn formula :'(

Comentado por Allakhazam

I killed them for about 1-2 hours and got one of the enchants after 200 kills. Going to go overprice it on the AH now.

This was on firetree :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Had a person commission me to make a whole frostsaber armor set a couple of weeks ago. Decent shadow and frost resist on all pieces. Said they were farming spellbinders. I don't remember their name or I would ask them, is it worth to have these resists? I'm a 60 rogue, its a severe cut in armor and the resists are minimal at this level. any thoughts?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Didn't think I was going to have much luck here seeing as how I got a Disgusting Oozeling on my first ooze drop in Felwood.. boy was I wrong. Cleared the tower once, sighed, hearthed to repair because I was at about 10%.. I go back to the tower and BAM 3rd spellbinder drops it.. pretty exciting. Hm to sell or not to sell...

PS I was #821 to get it :) heh

Comentado por Allakhazam

i hate them ... never drop what i want ... crusader :(

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got 2 today (Oct 29, 2005) in the span of 40 minutes, along with 3 greens in the 2 hours total I was farming them

Comentado por Allakhazam

Are they elites?

Comentado por Allakhazam

was killing these today got 2 crusader formulas and a axe of the deep woods in prob 400-500 kills

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just got my recipe today...have been farming for 2 nights with no luck(though nice runecloth, an occasional green and nice grey drops)...then this morning at about 100 kills total (from the 3 times) i got it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Do u think a level 50 rogue can kill these?
Doesnt say the exact level of these.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Killing them is easy....fighting off the hardcore farmers is another thing altogether....If I see someone with a guild tag I know, I'll lay off, knwing they are legit. But too many times its an unguilded rogue/hunter pair camping top and bottom of the tower and and if you get lucky enough to grab the one by the road (yeah and he drops a piece of cheese, 3 silver and 2 runecloth) you get /yelled at in Chinese. Eventually, I will get the enchant...I hope...

Comentado por Allakhazam

Killed the three at the bottom. Got two of the crusader-enchant. Love me people! This was on The Venture Co

Comentado por Allakhazam

There is so many people there, Tons of horde camping my body all the time.

Comentado por Allakhazam

All this talk about 3 spellbinders, what about the lvl 63 elite #$%^& that was there when i tried to farm the crusader!

Comentado por Allakhazam

been out here for months. still never got crusader. BTW I do LITERALLY mean MONTHS

Comentado por Allakhazam

farming my crusader formula for some weeks... I fall on the Axe of the deep woods this afternoon.... nice!.. then later tonight, the chest appears and I get the Wyrmslayer Spaulders ( Espaldares do Mata-serpe )...

along with some nice greens that gave me nice essences :)

lucky day... but still no formula :(

Edited, Sat May 6 23:54:58 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

Is there any other places they spawn? I know there's 2 like at the beginning of the road to that tower, which is near the scarlet hunter, then 6 in the tower, and one that circle patrols the tower, is there any where else that they can spawn instead of the avengers and what not?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Can anyone give me any tips on killing these guys?
I'm a warrior and when I go to fight one, all three aggro. I might be able to kill two at a time, but definately not 3.

Answer to that: Pull charge the one to the left, furthest in. Do a bloodrage then imtimidating shout and kill that one. Use the pvp trinket if they pull frost nova.

Or do it the simpel way, run in - bloodrage, sweeping strikes, recklessness, whirlwind = all dead.

Simple as that

Comentado por Allakhazam

No, a level 50 Rogue would not be able to kill them, they are level 57/58.

Comentado por Allakhazam

after 2 hours farming for the formula of crusader,and in the last mob i´ve decide to kill...a pretty perdiot ring of fire ress have dropped,so allakhazam can update de drop rate...it´s no2 at least TWO in 200K + spellbinders killed
hope i´ll use soon those +20 fire res ^_^

Comentado por Allakhazam

Stood around like an idiot trying to steal kills from all the chinese *!@#$%^s that camp the area, then all of a sudden they are all gone. Not a single night elf in sight. The following half hour I have the tower all to myself, and get Two of Elementals, Thorium Lockbox and the Crusader enchant. I'm gonna stick around a while longer and see if I can get some more goodies.

Comentado por Allakhazam

so ima 54 arms/fury warrior and am reading all of this earlier and decide,hey.why not give it a try...so i go there and scope out the cam pfor a few just to see how many there are and what im working with...i find 4 spellbinders outside hearthglen...kill the first three,nothing but a thorium lockbox(which had kang the decapititaor in it i might add. :) so i get to the last one and notice hes potroling outside of the tower but inside the wall(the tower outside of hearthglen)....notice there is a mob of three by entrance so i cant take that way at this lvl yet...run around back and look for a semi-high ledge from the mountaisn i can just jump off of into the the inner wall where only the lvl 58 spell binder was...me not thinking i would make the jump,makes it...wait for the binder to circle back around...charge,rend,demoralizing shout..couple heroic/mortal strikes and an execute and hes dead with me still at 87% health...sure enough,he drops the crusader and a star ruby,sold kang for 300g..crusader formula for 225g and ruby for 5g...end up walking away with 567g(counting the 37g i alrdy had).... :)...blew alot of it the next day on complete valors set but maybe like 200 of it...

Comentado por Allakhazam

Can anyone give me any tips on killing these guys?
I'm a warrior and when I go to fight one, all three aggro. I might be able to kill two at a time, but definately not 3.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I camped the Spellbinders for 44 hours over 3 months.

During that time I got 1 purple, 3 blues, and about 20 greens.

Six items I received drop less often than Crusader (the purple, the 3 blues, and 2 Thorium Lockboxes). The combined value of the purple and blues in the AH would not sell for enough to purchase Crusader, which sells for 300g on Medivh.

Twice the enchant was "stolen" from me by people who tagged "my" mobs.

The Spellbinders are on a 7min (+/- 1 min) respawn. If camping just the top of the tower, that's 25 spellbinders an hour. If just the bottom, it's probably around 35 an hour. If you're lucky and have the whole tower, it's 50 an hour.

Figuring a conservative 35 kills an hour, I killed over 1500 Spellbinders. Then... finally... I got the Crusader enchant.

This camp sucks.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I have killed 541 of them and this is the loot list:

Imbued Plate Pauldrons
Plans: Thorium Boots

Traveler's Backpack
Runecloth (380)
Formula: Enchant Weapon - Crusader (3)
Aquamarine
Emerald Helm of Defense
Thorium Lockbox
Star Ruby

+ A lot of white and gray items that sold for 60 gold to npc.

And average coin drop + pickpocketing money from one Spellbinder is 9 silver and 60 copper, so I gained a nice amount of gold total.

Edited, Thu Mar 9 05:54:38 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

any one know the respawn time for this mob?

Comentado por Allakhazam

are they elite?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Oops sorry them are 56-58 non elites, so rogue can kill them easily alone :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Been killing these guys for 2 days now (about 8 hours >.<) and I've gottebn two crappy greens and a travelers backpack.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Was farming these for 2 hours, and a priest turned up, so we grouped, killed them for a while, watched a troll mage die a few times, then Demonslayer drops, we both hit greed and I lose by 23 - I'm not bothered that I lost, but it's just that has a 5/220000 chance of dropping, Crusader has a 500/220000 chance :< Also, I'm a Paladin, and we all know how much they suck, so you warriors can't complain about not being able to kill these

One more thing, I'm a D0rf, and have a Racial 10 resist to frost, and I'm resisting a helluva lot of the time, and with Frost Res rank 3, that's 70 Frost Resistence, which is kinda nice, but 10 does fine, so I go Devo... :q
(And btw, if you get you get your timing right, you can kill durgan and 1 at the top, drop down, kill the bottom three, run back up and kill the top 2, that way, you're hardly moving around...)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Dropped for me on my 7th kill and bought me my epic mount training. :D
<--- One happy camper.

Comentado por forkinater

1000 kills, still no enchant. I don't want to sell it. I just want it for my collection as I am an enchanter. This is painful...

Comentado por ArxonHavenloft

This single solitary tower with a total of 7 mobs that have a .05% chance to drop a Crusader Enchant & a 7 Minute Respawn Timer is THE most heavily farmed location in the game. There is normally only 1 or 2 people there but nomatter what there will ALWAYS be someone there farming the enchant. Even if you had the tower all to yourself it would take you days to get this to drop for you.

I'm just going to go farm the 200g. I can do that without interference and most likely far more quickly than I'll ever see a drop.

I don't mind farming for long periods of time but why they would only put one location into the game for this drop is incredibly illogical. It's like their sole purpose was to make players be mean to each other. There just isn't any reason why there couldn't be 6 or even 10 of these towers in WPL.

Comentado por hidenagenda

They will respawn up and down the road there, not just at the tower. If you're dealing with competition, make a macro:

/tar scarlet spellbinder
/cast Moonfire

Of whatever other instant-tag ability you have

Comentado por Amiinmoro

I really didn't want to be that guy to comment "Hey, I killed 7 Scarlet Spellbinders and it dropped", but I literally just went up to the tower, killed 7 of the mobs and it dropped. I read your comments before heading up to the tower and was ready to farm for like 3 hours, knowing that I will probably be disappointed and HS back to Stormwind. Guess I got lucky..... going to continue farming now to see if my luck holds up.

Comentado por zibool88

I got it like on the 50th kill but to be honest, there should be more mobs dropping this recipe in WPL since on the high populated servers, there's always someone farming it.

Comentado por Tahuma

Grinding the last two levels out in Hardcore on the Scarlet Spellbinders, and I'm a few bars from lv60, and still haven't seen any crusader enchant drop. When nobody is around, it's a bit slower than grinding other undead for experience, but they drop an alright amount of silver, better with pickpocketing (8-11 silver a kill). Seem to have zero grey item drops on their loot table, so if you aren't feelin' up for the RNG or the spot is camped out by another, you might be better off going elsewhere to grind cash for the crusader enchantment recipe.

Comentado por LouisianaBoots

I've killed 300 of them in the last 3 days. No crusader yet, but I've looted a Helm of Narv and Lady Alizabeths Necklace, both of which got DEd on the spot.

If nobody else is there I am able to kill 1 spellbinder per minute. There are up to 9 that can spawn, 3 of which can spawn as Avengers rather than Spellbinders. (One walking exterior of tower, 2 on roads) its possible the number is actually 10, but I believe its 9 and 1 pats very far so seems like a seperate spawn sometimes.

Here's to hoping I get it soon because I'm not willing to pay 17,000 gold for the pattern on Whitemane server cluster

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