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Comentado por Paraplim Boi, farming sucks, assuming you make 20k an hour max level and a token was 160k, you're roughly working 2,5$ an hour. Worse, if you buy your game time directly, 1.5$ an hour.

Think the Chinese factory workers make more these days. I guess the experience makes it fun? Comentado por Corveroth Boi, farming sucks, assuming you make 20k an hour max level and a token was 160k, you're roughly working 2,5$ an hour. Worse, if you buy your game time directly, 1.5$ an hour. \r
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Think the Chinese factory workers make more these days. I guess the experience makes it fun?\r
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This kind of argument is very strange to me. Yes, playing the game is fun; were it not, I would cease to play (at least in that manner).\r
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Beyond that, even if I subject myself to some un-fun gameplay for some hours to buy a Token and work for less than my local minimum wage, there remains the possibility that I've still made a rational choice. I could purchase a Token for two hours of wages, but I do not have the power to demand that I be allowed to work those two hours. Setting aside the possibility of changing jobs, my income is fixed, and the cheapest way to play is to find a method that does not involve spending that income.\r
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But seriously, focusing on the purely economic side of things is weird. Yes, do the fun game things. Comentado por Crossless I've made like 800k gold since Wednesday selling Thin Jelly. Comentado por sirenspew Boi, farming sucks, assuming you make 20k an hour max level and a token was 160k, you're roughly working 2,5$ an hour. Worse, if you buy your game time directly, 1.5$ an hour.

Think the Chinese factory workers make more these days. I guess the experience makes it fun?

People don't think about it this way, and it is kinda sad really. As someone who has made millions and millions of gold in the AH, I have come to the point where I just don't care any more and it isn't worth my time to really push the AH. I still keep about 1000 items running in the AH at any given moment, but thanks to TSM the bulk of the time is emptying the mailbox more than anything else. 20 minutes of mailbox time, 5 minutes crafting, repeat every few days.

From the graph in this post this person averaged 14,088 gold per hour, thats 12 hours per token. $1.66 per hour. Do the math, even if you make 4 times this amount in the same time spent it is less than minimum wage.

But hey, if you have fun doing it, go for it. Fun is what games are all about. Enjoy yourself. Me, I am done with that, there are plenty of other things I can do in the game that I enjoy and are much more fun than working the AH. And this is coming from someone that has worked the AH every damn day since vanilla.

Reminds me of a buddy of mine back in the day, hardcore raider 5 nights a week, the consumables required took a lot of time, he said screw it bought gold from the china farmers every couple months. His thought was I enjoy raiding, I can buy gold for an hours worth of work and keep raiding. Real life did not allow for the time to farm and raiding was about all he had time for. Makes perfect sense.

The value of your time, what that value is to you, and what you want to do to enjoy your day. Me, I'll keep selling crap 20 minutes every couple days, but the hours upon hours week upon week, no thanks. Comentado por DiscordianKitty I wonder if the Thin Jelly market will crash now. On my server it's already selling at under 20% of its value. Comentado por Paraplim Flipping items, processing them, buying and selling at the right times is most profitabele of course, farming is a drone's work and I assume it's just for the challenge. \r
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Ironically had this system been there in vanilla in 2004 I would have definitely used it, I had those parents who would forbid you from spending money on silly games that 'slow' the pc down with it's viruses... next to their 15 search bars... \r
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This would have been viable to me if I was a child. Maybe there are still some kids out there for who it's the only way to pay for the game. Comentado por GoldenGirl1951 I just clicked on the Booty Bay Gazette addon. It did not download to anything. But while reading it, there was a link to click on for Auctionator for Classic and of course, I clicked on that since I miss it big time in Classic. Next thing I get a message that malicious software has been installed and that some worm has infected my iMac. Fortunately I know that you never believe an unrequested open window, and quit Safari completely. I discarded the downloads and restarted the computer. I checked my Activity Monitor and nothing is unusual. I am relaying this info so someone else does not experience the same fraud. Fortunately, my OS is always up to date. Hopefully, these sources will be checked before being published in the future. Comentado por AnimeLeech But while reading it, there was a link to click on for Auctionator for Classic\r
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this is the suspicious part for me. i'm not saying i don't believe you, i believe you 100%. what i'd like to get to the bottom of is how the virus tried to get your attention.\r
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my best guess is you are running safari without an adblocker? i'm not familiar with that browser so i don't know if you can install 3rd party addons like a trusted adblocker. \r
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if this is true, then i am led to believe you saw an ad and were tricked into clicking it? (does bootybay gazette run ads?) when i hover over the addon download, it's a zip file so the d\/l should have started immediately without there being another page loading. \r
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this is all i see when i click on the addon link https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/bL7Zz5E.jpg\r
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i can't find where you saw the link to auctionator classic. my next guess it was either form curseforge or wowinterface. one of those files might be bad. i got my copy from WoWinterface the one labeled "Auctionator Classic (quickfix)" it didn't trigger anything but i'll give it manual scan to be safe. \r
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if there's any other info you can provide let us know so we can notify the people in charge to fix it and to protect others. Comentado por Mordane Unfortunately sometimes those "Extra pop ups" are what tricks Safari. But like you did is always the best way - close off Safari and then check. Another good program, just to run a scan also (just to be sure is MalwareBytes for Mac - www.malwarebytes.com\/mac - it will do a check for you in the free version (as you don't generally need the paid version all the time). it should come back clean, so you know all is ok. Pretty sure it should be, but it's always nice to know "just incase". :) Comentado por GoldenGirl1951 I did not click on any ads. I know better. I did click on the link to Auctionator that appeared and a box popped up telling me what I previously said. I did not take a photo of it, and I am not going to try it again. I appreciate you trying to help. I know Apple OS, Safari, and my iMac and the site was pfishing. I am glad you were not exposed to the same experience. I just wanted to alert other Mac players to beware. I have since found a nice addon for Classic called Aux and it will do well enough for my needs. Again, thank you for trying to trouble shoot my experience but I am not revisiting it to be able to explain more. Comentado por Myrroddin Boi, farming sucks, assuming you make 20k an hour max level and a token was 160k, you're roughly working 2,5$ an hour. Worse, if you buy your game time directly, 1.5$ an hour. \r
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Think the Chinese factory workers make more these days. I guess the experience makes it fun?\r
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This kind of argument is very strange to me. Yes, playing the game is fun; were it not, I would cease to play (at least in that manner).\r
\r
Beyond that, even if I subject myself to some un-fun gameplay for some hours to buy a Token and work for less than my local minimum wage, there remains the possibility that I've still made a rational choice. I could purchase a Token for two hours of wages, but I do not have the power to demand that I be allowed to work those two hours. Setting aside the possibility of changing jobs, my income is fixed, and the cheapest way to play is to find a method that does not involve spending that income.\r
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But seriously, focusing on the purely economic side of things is weird. Yes, do the fun game things.\r
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To add to your point, Corveroth, we aren't getting paid to play the game; it isn't our job. Paraplim comparing wages to Chinese factory workers does not work. The entire argument is nonsensical and does not hold water. If we were earning a wage to play World of Warcaft, then there would be something to discuss. But since that isn't the case, I agree with you, Corveroth. It's an argument that does not work.

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