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Jdotb BFA Q&A #8 - MDI All Stars, Weekly Affix Advice

criado 29/10/2018 em 11:45 por Squishei

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Comentado por Efkius As balance explosives suck bad for me. If in group with dh and rogue those wankers to slow aim orb and i need use alot starsurge. Not mention others caster also #$%^ but probally to lazy deal with orbs. Comentado por voltigeuse01 I have been playing wow for about 10 years and I cannot understand what this guy is saying.. is it in English? Comentado por voltigeuse01 I meant the previous comment Comentado por Jaidalyn Wow won't teach you how to grasp what someone with poor english is trying to say, you gotta go outside to learn that skill. Comentado por sinangelus That post sums up typical pug in a nutshell: no one wants to kill explosive because "dps loss". How about you do the tactics and prevent a wipe? Nope... \r
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Personally I like to check the damage done to the explosive at the end of dungeon, unfortunately I'm rarely surprised to actually see someone put a lot of effort into killing them. Comentado por Blahblahwhatever As balance explosives suck bad for me. If in group with dh and rogue those wankers to slow aim orb and i need use alot starsurge. Not mention others caster also #$%^ but probally to lazy deal with orbs.

Rogues and dh's are not lazy with orbs, they actually suck at it and have to spend a high resource spell to kill them. Balance druids definitely do not have this issue at all. Classes that are best at it have some kind of spammable low to no cost, instant-cast, single-target spell. So actually as a matter of fact the top 3 dps classes to deal with it are frost mages, bm hunters and boomkins. They don't have much health dude.

Also it is far superior to have a dps designated to focus them rather than just free for all and hope for the best. Preferably a ranged because most of them are gonna spawn outside of melee range.

Not saying other people can't help but what you said is just wrong on multiple levels. Source: I extensive experience. I mean ran a 15 or higher of every dungeon the first week this affix was in game and went from low nothing ranks to top 30 in the world in m+ for my class at the time, pretty much everyone and their mother was complaining about this affix and I was just testing it figuring out the best way possible to deal with it and it was dealt with. It was honest to god never a particularly difficult to deal with in the first place and tanks\/melee were never better at dealing with it than ranged, even just 1 designated range assigned to focus it.

One even proer tip: you can totally ignore explosive a lot of the time and just use los. So you don't even really need to pull smaller groups than usual.

However, all of this said it changes when we're talking about higher keys and how explosive interacts with BFA dungeon mechanics. Of course anyone would prefer some other affixes over it. Comentado por Rizaria As balance explosives suck bad for me. If in group with dh and rogue those wankers to slow aim orb and i need use alot starsurge. Not mention others caster also #$%^ but probally to lazy deal with orbs.

Rogues and dh's are not lazy with orbs, they actually suck at it and have to spend a high resource spell to kill them. Balance druids definitely do not have this issue at all. Classes that are best at it have some kind of spammable low to no cost, instant-cast, single-target spell. So actually as a matter of fact the top 3 dps classes to deal with it are frost mages, bm hunters and boomkins. They don't have much health dude.

Also it is far superior to have a dps designated to focus them rather than just free for all and hope for the best. Preferably a ranged because most of them are gonna spawn outside of melee range.

Not saying other people can't help but what you said is just wrong on multiple levels. Source: I extensive experience. I mean ran a 15 or higher of every dungeon the first week this affix was in game and went from low nothing ranks to top 30 in the world in m+ for my class at the time, pretty much everyone and their mother was complaining about this affix and I was just testing it figuring out the best way possible to deal with it and it was dealt with. It was honest to god never a particularly difficult to deal with in the first place and tanks\/melee were never better at dealing with it than ranged, even just 1 designated range assigned to focus it.

One even proer tip: you can totally ignore explosive a lot of the time and just use los. So you don't even really need to pull smaller groups than usual.

However, all of this said it changes when we're talking about higher keys and how explosive interacts with BFA dungeon mechanics. Of course anyone would prefer some other affixes over it.

pro tip bud, as a 383 balance druid i can tell you, moonfire and sunfire do next to ZERO damage to explosives. and for you to defend that boomkins are good for them is laughable at best. yeah let me just pump one of my spenders that crits for 70k into this mob with 25k hp. sure it'll one shot it, but now i just lost my BIGGEST DPS ability into trash that i've seen plenty of melee one shot for less suffering damage. yes, explosive was nice in legion for boomkins to deal with, but that is very much NOT the case for boomkin in BfA

Edit: let me do some math with you for a second. I can use wrath on the orbs, it does about 4k damage outside of a crit, at most. Now, wrath is a 1.3 second cast with my haste. Wrath also generates 8 Astral Power, a starsurge costs 40 Astral Power, so at 8 per wrath, it will take me 5 wraths to get a single Starsurge out. Assuming none of my targets die midcast, that'll be a 6.5 second build up of 4k damage per 1.3 seconds, to drop my 40-70k Starsurge into an add that dies in 1 second by quite a few melee. this is entirely besides the fact that explosive spawns in the first 2-3 seconds of a pull 90% of the time, so How exactly do you expect me to oneshot those little explosive balls so the melee can tunnel the trash?

A boomkins job in explosive week is to "help" with orbs. any boomkin whos current raider.io score of 1500+ will tell you, a boomkins job is to ignore them. and only help if theres like 5+ spawned at once. Comentado por Qminator As balance explosives suck bad for me. If in group with dh and rogue those wankers to slow aim orb and i need use alot starsurge. Not mention others caster also #$%^ but probally to lazy deal with orbs.\r
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Rogues and dh's are not lazy with orbs, they actually suck at it and have to spend a high resource spell to kill them. Balance druids definitely do not have this issue at all. Classes that are best at it have some kind of spammable low to no cost, instant-cast, single-target spell. So actually as a matter of fact the top 3 dps classes to deal with it are frost mages, bm hunters and boomkins. They don't have much health dude.\r
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Also it is far superior to have a dps designated to focus them rather than just free for all and hope for the best. Preferably a ranged because most of them are gonna spawn outside of melee range.\r
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Not saying other people can't help but what you said is just wrong on multiple levels. Source: I extensive experience. I mean ran a 15 or higher of every dungeon the first week this affix was in game and went from low nothing ranks to top 30 in the world in m+ for my class at the time, pretty much everyone and their mother was complaining about this affix and I was just testing it figuring out the best way possible to deal with it and it was dealt with. It was honest to god never a particularly difficult to deal with in the first place and tanks\/melee were never better at dealing with it than ranged, even just 1 designated range assigned to focus it. \r
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One even proer tip: you can totally ignore explosive a lot of the time and just use los. So you don't even really need to pull smaller groups than usual.\r
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However, all of this said it changes when we're talking about higher keys and how explosive interacts with BFA dungeon mechanics. Of course anyone would prefer some other affixes over it.\r
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lol you have not tried to play boomkin on a explosives week can I see, pumping a starsurge into a orb feels really bad and cost alot, and moonfire\/sunfire dmg on orbs is really low, so no boomkin is not the best Comentado por Paultje82 Just remove that whole Explosive affix for something better.

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