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WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Hotfixes & PTR Updates, Identifying Markets plus Alt Armies

criado 06/10/2018 em 11:59 por Gumdrops

check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.comGumdrops/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverTradeSkillMasterHotfixes and PTR Updates

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With a hotfix that we're making to the game today, several changes to Alchemy items will take place:

The ratio of ingredients for Poção de Batalha da Agilidade has been adjusted so that the demand for Pólen de Sirena and Broto-do-rio are more closely aligned in the long term.
The costs of creating Poção da Morte Crescente and Poção do Sangue Irruptivo have been reduced. Since these potions have non-stat effects, it has been difficult to judge whether or not you should use them instead of stat potions. In practice, both contribute a similar amount of damage, but these potions are more constrained, since they are direct damage. We're reducing their costs to make the decision of whether to use them or not more of a question of economics, rather than a question of straight throughput. The goal is for these potions to provide most of the effectiveness of a Battle Potion, at a lower cost.
To complement these changes, we're reducing the minimum range required for the Poção da Morte Crescente's damage effect to reach full value. It will now be a 20-yard range (it was 30 yards).

In the next major content patch, Tides of Vengeance, we're going to update the Poção da Morte Crescente tooltip to read “damaging ranged abilities” instead of “ranged attacks”, to make it more clear this potion is functional for casters.

These hotfixes should go live very soon, over the next hour or two, and we'll have them noted in our hotfixes blog post later this evening.

Pólen de SirenaBroto-do-rioBanquete SanguinolentoNúcleo MarítimoKiefen speculatedHidronúcleoHidronúcleoExpulsomSanguicélulaSopro do BwonsamdiExpulsomPrimary Professions

Poção de Batalha da Agilidade Reduce the materials required to create a Battle Potion of Agility.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 6 to 10.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 8.

Poção de Batalha da Agilidade Create a Battle Potion of Agility.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 9 to 15.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount decreased from 12 to 10.

Poção de Batalha da Agilidade Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 6 to 10.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 8.

Poção de Batalha do Intelecto Reduce the materials required to create a Battle Potion of Intellect.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção de Batalha do Intelecto Create a Battle Potion of Intellect.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 9 to 10.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 12 to 15.

Poção de Batalha do Intelecto Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção de Batalha do Vigor Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção de Batalha do Vigor Reduce the materials required to create a Battle Potion of Stamina.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção de Batalha do Vigor Create a Battle Potion of Stamina.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 9 to 10.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 12 to 15.

Poção de Batalha da Força Reduce the materials required to create a Battle Potion of Strength.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção de Batalha da Força Create a Battle Potion of Strength.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 9 to 10.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 12 to 15.

Poção de Batalha da Força Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 10.

NEW Convert one Breath of Bwonsamdi into one Sanguicell.

NEW Create an Eternal Alchemist Stone.

Poção do Sangue Irruptivo Reduce the materials required to create a Potion of Bursting Blood.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 8.

Poção do Sangue Irruptivo Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 8.

Poção do Sangue Irruptivo Create a Potion of Bursting Blood.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount decreased from 9 to 8.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 12 to 13.

Poção do Reabastecimento Reduce the materials required to create a Potion of Replenishment.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção do Reabastecimento Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção do Reabastecimento Create a Potion of Replenishment.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount increased from 9 to 10.
Reagent Pólen de Sirena amount increased from 12 to 15.

Poção da Morte Crescente Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 8.

Poção da Morte Crescente Reduces the materials required to create a Potion of Rising Death.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 8.

Poção da Morte Crescente Create a Potion of Rising Death.
Reagent Musgo-estrela amount decreased from 9 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 12 to 13.

NEW Create a Spirited Alchemist Stone.

Poção de Pele de Aço Create a Steelskin Potion.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 9 to 10.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 12 to 15.

Poção de Pele de Aço Reduce the materials required to create a Steelskin Potion.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 10.

Poção de Pele de Aço Chance to create multiple potions.
Reagent Broto-do-rio amount increased from 6 to 8.
Reagent Talo-marinho amount increased from 7 to 10.

NEW Create a Sanguified Alchemist Stone.

NEW Transmute herbs into a bag of anchor related items.

NEW Convert one Breath of Bwonsamdi into one Sanguicell.

NEW Convert a Sanguicell into Expulsom.

NEW Convert one Breath of Bwonsamdi into one Sanguicell.

NEW Convert a Sanguicell into Expulsom.

NEW Convert one Breath of Bwonsamdi into one Sanguicell.

NEW Create Charged SP1-R1-73D Bionic Bifocals.

NEW Create Charged SP1-R1-73D Gearspun Goggles.

NEW Create Charged SP1-R1-73D Orthogonal Optics.

NEW Create Charged SP1-R1-73D Synthetic Specs.

NEW Create SP1-R1-73D Bionic Bifocals.

NEW Create SP1-R1-73D Gearspun Goggles.

NEW Create SP1-R1-73D Orthogonal Optics.

NEW Create SP1-R1-73D Synthetic Specs.

NEW Create Sanguified Bionic Bifocals.

NEW Create Sanguified Gearspun Goggles.

NEW Create Sanguified Orthogonal Optics.

NEW Create Sanguified Synthetic Specs.

NEW Convert one Breath of Bwonsamdi into one Sanguicell.

Secondary Skills

NEW Prepare Sanguinated Feasts more efficiently, using significantly fewer materials.

NEW Prepare a Sanguinated Feast.

NEW Prepare Sanguinated Feasts more efficiently, using fewer materials.

NEW Equip a fishing pole and find a body of water to fish. Right-Click on the bob in the water when it splashes to catch your fish. Higher skill increases your chance of fishing successfully in higher level areas.

What do you think of all the Bind in Pickup materials? Will you be looking to utilise the conversions between materials for your professions? Have you dropped or swapped any professions so far in Battle for Azeroth?Identifying Markets/u/Graveweaver shared the Beginners Guide to Finding Your Own Markets on the /r/woweconomy subreddit this weekHello! I felt like writing a little guide on finding unusual markets, what are good ideas and bad ideas, and how to break into them. This guide is intended for absolute beginners, so if you are an experienced goldmaker, there is probably very little information here that you don't already know. Likewise, if you're looking for handholding and exact directions of what to invest in, turn back now as well. This will be a guide attempting to teach you how to discover new markets rather than directing you to X farming spot to do X to sell for X. And since this is a guide on discovery, I will be focusing on pointing out lesser known avenues of profit, while only briefly mentioning mainstream methods like BFA mats and darkmoon decks.

What is a market?

To look at this formally, here is the definition of a market from economictimes.com:

"A market is defined as the sum total of all the buyers and sellers in the area or region under consideration. (...) The value, cost and price of items traded are as per forces of supply and demand in a market."

How much of this item is available?

What is it used for?

How many people will it be useful to?

checking out the full post where /u/Graveweaver discusses some specific item examples to give an idea of putting this in to practiceThe Gold QueenThe quickest way is to look at the TSM tooltip for any item for region sale market average and then if its high (like .4+), googling to see if the item actually is used for something or if the number is an anomaly. You can find items to research in your professions, TSM can even list them from highest to lowest sale avg in the crafting tab. Double checking on wowhead is key because a few have false sale averages like the Pandaria luck potion, because it is now just a gray item.

That IMO is the easiest way, but here are more specific things I do:

Look at all mounts and make a list of the reagents and see if i can craft them somehow
When I'm crafting and I am missing a material or always in need of a certain one, I make a note of it, a lot of times these materials are crafted by other professions and can be put on the AH for lots of gold because other crafters need to use them.
When I'm questing and need an item I will write it down. For example, back in MoP there was this annoying whale shark rare that gave tons of timeless coins but swam around the isle and was impossible to reach without water walking- So I started crafting and selling water walking potions. I also google all other QoL items like speed boosts, water breathing, hovering, etc and craft all of them.

If you are savvy with excel/google sheets you can extract the TSM API for your realm and create a list of all items and their region sale rates and sort from highest to lowest. There are guides on this sub on how to do it, but I personally haven't bothered.How long did it take you to find your own market when starting out? Which other tools do you use to find new markets?Alt Armies/u/Faux29
So I currently have 3 characters maxed out with the following:

5 herb tracking + 1 fish finding
5 fish finding + 1 herb tracking
5 enchanting rod + 1 cloth scavenger

I check in the AM, Morning Break, Lunch, PM Break, Home, Before bed.

Within the last 30ish days I have pretty much made my mats back less the expulsom. I feel there is value here if you:

Play the characters to acquire resources. Which I actively do.
Plan on playing the whole expansion. Which I actively do.

This is a long term investment that I would say probably takes at minimum 3 months to break even on but is worth it over the life of the expansion – especially when they add the extra caches after exalted. And only worth pursuing if you were going to be mostly doing this anyways./u/DeezyTypeI have a newborn and most of my playtime is dedicated to raiding and then another couple hours a week from there. I’m curious if there’s any niche ways y’all are making gold with profession flips with the current xpac like in legion? I have 3 toons at 120 then every other class at 110, it’s just play time that is a problem. I know a no brained would be to just level a toon with just gathering on my down time, but really would rather doing something else? I also can’t flip much on the AH because my total gold is probably 200k/u/beerp recommends setting up Sky Golem factoriesDepending on how many toons you have that can handle MoP content, make Golem Celeste factories.

All you need is an alt that is 85+ i believe. Level up pandaria engineering to 75, kill some mobs and the pattern will drop. Then level alchemy until you have the transmute trillium + transmute: living steel. These can then pop pop out a sky golem every 30days, which goes for 150k on most servers. The cost of it will vary around 70-90k usually. Which makes you 80-60k per toon that has this for literally no effort at all (like 2mins per char).
/u/cheesestickjimmy echoes what we discussed last week, flipping on the Auction House is very lucrativeFlipping raw mats is working best for me right now. I’m starting small and slowly working on other markets. So far on my server I’ve been focusing on only Seda do Mar Profundo and Pólen de Sirena (while mostly just observing other items like Linho Borrifado pela Maré, Pó Tenebroso, Minério de Monelita, and others). Set my TSM shopping scan for 80% DBMarket. After a dungeon run, I’ll swing by the auction house and grab whatever is 80% or below. When I have a fair amount (at least 200+), I’ll re list. I shoot to post at 100% DBMarket (lazy people are ALWAYS willing to pay more for the stack size they need), but as long as you’re selling for over 5% profit (to cover the AH cut), you’re going to have gold coming in. Buy low, sell high!

This requires time in the long run, as you want to make sure you understand the market for the item you’re selling. When it goes quickly vs when it’s not moving. Being able to notice pricing trends throughout the week is crucial to maximizing profits.

Test out different stack sizes. Stacks of 200 Siren’s Pollen sell easily for me, whereas I’ve found listing Deep Sea Satin stacks of 30-50 guarantees a faster sale.

Spending a few minutes at the AH throughout the week (when sales are slow and prices are lower) can get you loads of gold as reset day approaches and demand/prices rise. I’ve gotten mats that sell for 60+ gold each for like 12 silver each on slow days. When you’re turning around and selling it in multiple 200 stacks, that really adds up.

Just focusing on two items is pretty small scale stuff, but I try to make sure I undercut a few stacks of 200 before bed, and when I wake up I always have gold sitting in my mailbox.Lon MeasleyHow many alts do you have for gold-making purposes? Are you thinking about making more characters, and if so what will they be used for?Further Reading/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverstreaming live on Twitch@GumdropsEU

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Comentado por InqGran18midnight fish will be a trash?Comentado por MenelvagorWhat does this have to do with chaos crystalsComentado por trestI’ve leveled the BfA alchemy skill to 50 (mostly via health pots which are actually useful) on a few of my 110s to enable the transmutation recipes (from the alchemy trainer). Every day I have all 3 doing transmute Ore to Herbs or transmute Herbs to Ore (since you only get one transmute per day). It’s not massive, but you end up with more of the resources over time (and the transmutes have been adding skill points to those alts to level up their alchemy cheaply, though slowly).Comentado por nmb3000I'm torn on BoP mats. On one hand it really limits how self-sustaining you can be, since there are only so many expulsom a single character can reasonably acquire, which is frustrating when you play on very few characters. However on the positive side, it's a way to fight the value of "alt armies" (something I despise because I feel they devalue WoW as a whole and lead to degenerate behavior like garrison gold mission farming -- aka why we can't have nice things). That said, BfA has way too many BoP materials already, and I can't believe they are adding more. Battle for Monthly Active Users indeed.

And I'm sorry, but AH flipping of crafting materials is nothing to be proud of. Leeching gold out of people while providing zero benefit is just being a scumbag. It puts newer players and those who haven't built up a massive stockpile of gold at a huge disadvantage because they can't even afford to level professions or purchase consumables. Blizzard is partly to blame, with the absurd inflation of mats costs for everything (and especially alchemy), but these people buying and relisting to make sure everything stays over-inflated just compounds the problem.

Sometimes I think the woweconomy subreddit is just a place where people can congratulate each other about screwing over other players. I guess since they gleefully label themselves goblins that shouldn't be too much of a surprise.Comentado por ArchmageRexI'm torn on BoP mats. On one hand it really limits how self-sustaining you can be, since there are only so many expulsom a single character can reasonably acquire, which is frustrating when you play on very few characters. However on the positive side, it's a way to fight the value of "alt armies" (something I despise because I feel they devalue WoW as a whole and lead to degenerate behavior like garrison gold mission farming -- aka why we can't have nice things). That said, BfA has way too many BoP materials already, and I can't believe they are adding more. Battle for Monthly Active Users indeed.

And I'm sorry, but AH flipping of crafting materials is nothing to be proud of. Leeching gold out of people while providing zero benefit is just being a scumbag. It puts newer players and those who haven't built up a massive stockpile of gold at a huge disadvantage because they can't even afford to level professions or purchase consumables. Blizzard is partly to blame, with the absurd inflation of mats costs for everything (and especially alchemy), but these people buying and relisting to make sure everything stays over-inflated just compounds the problem.

Sometimes I think the woweconomy subreddit is just a place where people can congratulate each other about screwing over other players. I guess since they gleefully label themselves goblins that shouldn't be too much of a surprise.Comentado por MaXiiczekGreat that we will be able to convert sanguicel and breath to expulsom, but as a scribe, I don't have many option what to do even with expulsom... and I guess darkmoon cards won't be relevant anymore when new raid opens... so, yeah, that's it... I still hope for an addition of some material vendor similar to blood trader in Legion :)Comentado por ThoorinI'm torn on BoP mats. On one hand it really limits how self-sustaining you can be, since there are only so many expulsom a single character can reasonably acquire, which is frustrating when you play on very few characters.How long did it take you to find your own market when starting out?Comentado por EllonaAbout the fishing changes. Do they mean that we are gonna need an actual fishing rod in order to fish? Also, if we use rods and lures in order to fish successfully, will it increase the chance of getting e.g. Midnight salmons or more fish in general?Comentado por AvengionThe gold queen doesnt even have an gold guides and then she links you to another twitter called teh theglddragon which is just a bunch of nonsense posts....Comentado por Thoorinconvert one Breath of Bwonsamdi from the upcoming raid in to Expulsom.

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