Finally. Its about time someone on the Horde had the common sense to call out Sylvanas on her nonsense. She's a terrible leader, and people only like her because she's the first female leader of the Horde. She's done NOTHING good, making Garrosh look like a great leader. Vol'jin's Loa didn't mislead him the way we all expected; the Loa actually did good in making her Warchief because it helped the REAL Horde realize that they need a true Warchief instead of a stand-in zombie. Saurfang for Warchief, or death to the Horde. Only two options left.More importantly, it seems we'll finally get something done about the problem that is Jaina. The old Jaina, who wanted peace between the factions, was a better written character than this mess we have now. "They bombed us, so they should ALL die; even the innocent ones that had nothing to do with it!" is a terrible character, and Garrosh is long gone; she's got no reason to be so sandy anymore since all of the perpetrators are dead. Hopefully the Kul'tiran story fixes all of her problems and returns her to being a leader that isn't "I told you so, Varian."Now, this begs the question; Lor'themar being relevant when? Dude's had so many minor roles and not a single major one. The closest thing to a major role he's had was as a quest giver on the Isle of Thunder. Give the only masculine elf some sort of role already.
GOD !@#$ING DAMN IT!I CALLED IT WITH SAURFANG CHUCK HIM ON TOP OF THE CORPSE PILE MADE UP 90% OF OUR LORE HEROES WITH THRALL SINCE THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE DEAD TOO SINCE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE FACTION ANYMORE!
I am so exhausted of being part of the Bad Guy Faction every. single. expansion.
You dead to me now, Saurfang. Your honor would have meant the end of the Horde at Undercity. Old man needs to retire.
People defending Sylvanas and dissing freaking SAURFANG.What has the Horde become?At this point, I feel like the Orcs, Trolls and Tauren should just form a new faction, and leave this "Horde" to the zombies, the elves, and the zombie elves.
I'd like to remind people that Azeroth is technically going through a deathrattle thanks to Sargeras' sword, and fighting over its lifeblood instead of healing it is in fact a bad call. Like ridiculously bad. Because literally every single expansion the Horde and Alliance fight and some third-party faction decides to attack, forcing the Horde and Alliance to band together anyway, but with less forces, and then be scolded by some dude: "Oh, see this is why the Alliance and Horde should work together." Then the Alliance and Horde grit their teeth and go on a fake peace trial period, before fighting one another again.It's getting really, really old, and I can't blame Saurfang, who has literally gone through dozens of wars and is old by orc standards, to have realized that this self-destructive cycle will eventually destroy the planet. Alex Afrasiabi said that this was supposed to be the end of the Alliance-Horde War, so I'm super thankful for that. The story is old, and Sylvanas is literally just undead Garrosh at this point.Foregone Aesop trope.Sylvanas and Lor'themar were against destroying Theramore back in the day, because their capitals would be the ones closest to the Alliance, and thus, the easiest for the Alliance to take their retribution on. I guess she magically forgot this reservation she had back then, because she shouldn't really be surprised that the Alliance attacks Lordaeron shortly after.
Saurfang's choice likely came from his comment to Nazgrim's loyalty in Siege of Orgrimmar (when we met him before the Paragons of Mantid. Nazgrim was too loyal to disobey his Warchief. Saurfang would have made the different choice than Nazgrim, as we see here.
Good thing the citizens of Kul Tiras don't know Jaina's actions against Daelin anymore.
Not to mention the Horde goes through Warchiefs like Hogwart's went through Defense Against the Dark Arts instructors...
I'm starting to get the feeling they are gonna make Sylvanas go full on Garrosh 2.0. I hope not, but that seems to be where things are headed.. though it is just alpha datamining.