WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Legion Gold on PTR, Legion Retrospective, Pet Resources & Clickbait

Wowhead Criado 16/6/2018 em 10:29 por Gumdrops

check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.comGumdrops/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverTradeSkillMasterSangue de Sargeras/u/wronnyd shared some initial findings after using character copy.

Some more short beta notes:

Legion WQs still offer the usual amount of OR
Argus WQ unlocks seem bugged on copied characters on beta (Korkrun has fewer and Mac'Aree has no WQs available).
Legion Artifact Power Items, including those from OH Missions, are now grey items that can be sold for a low amount of gold.
Sangue de Sargeras & Sarguerita Primeva do still bind on pickup. BoS Missions are as costly on beta as they are on live.
I've had 2 Missions that award toys (Win the Crowd and Glittering Treasure) show up on beta, that I hadn't seen on live.
Across the 11 characters I've copied over, none of them had a gold mission available on beta (yet).
Other Missions show up as usual.

/u/hitstuff shares their thoughts on why they disagree

I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed.

In WoD they removed the gold missions because of the HUGE number of players complaining about the ease of gold making, and rightly so. The reason it was easy, was because you never had to leave the garrison to keep the gold missions rolling, even to the point where you could purchase all crafting goods needed, run your gold missions, and still have resources left over.

In Legion, they have already combated these issues present in WoD.

First, they made it so you couldn't run alt armies that didn't have to leave their OH (initially). With the trader change in Legion, you could in fact have your alts sit there and break even for the gold missions, but that has been broken again (for the most part).

Second, with the need to play old content to keep these running, it seems like they would leave it as it's value won't increase with the coming inflation. WoD's Garrison problem was prevalent with the majority of players. Legion's not so much - that's not to say it hasn't been a valid way of making gold, but it hasn't been the top way of making gold this expansion.

Third, the use of the OH is also limited; the WoD garrisons did several functions; gold missions, multiple major crafting cooldowns, auction house, achievements, holiday items, repeatable battle pet quests/rewards, etc. The OH is somewhat tame compared to the WoD garrisons. They needed to draw people out of their garrisons, and I think the OH will naturally die off when leveling past it in BfA.

I could be wrong in my line of thinking, but I don't see the same need or demand for the OHs to have the gold removed.

Sangue de SargerasHave you copied a character to the PTR yet? If you are, what are you going to be testing out? If they're still accessible, will you continue doing Legion gold missions in Battle for Azeroth?/u/porcipine posed the question on gold-making favourites in Legion

The week M Antorus opened I found a 985 titanforged leather BoE with socket and +speed, put it up for 3M not expecting it to sell, a week later I got a PM from a guy offering me 4M if I'd delist and hold it for him while he transfers a guild to pick it up. Thought it was a scam to get me to delist so someone else could list theirs but it wasn't selling anyways so I figured a day off the market couldn't hurt too much. Turned out to be legit, when I traded it to him I must have counted the 0's 15 times to make sure it was right.

Not the most I've ever made, but by far the most I've ever made simply by looting a corpse.

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Sold a 130k transmog (that I'd farmed 2 days earlier) and 120k alchemy recipe (that I'd been reposting for 3 years).

Bought 10 Swift Springstriders at 2.7k each. Have resold 5 so far for an average of 30k each.

Discovered a few untapped markets (this one, among others) that prove crafted transmog can be very lucrative.

Took advantage of my many level 90+ alts to create multiple Engineers, Tailors, and Alchemists. This has really boosted my profits from Bags, Sky Golems and Volatiles.

Also used several of these otherwise-unplayed alts to guarantee myself a slow but steady supply of Spirits of Harmony, where I'm able to buy them at 1/3 or less of the market rate. This has been great for crafting Sky Golems, especially as the price of Trillium & Ghost Iron keeps rising.

Since January 2018, I've made an average of 1.5 million gold per month in sales. 1.5m is around the maximum amount of gold I ever held at one time before Legion. I just bought the Warframe mount (which is awesome) and I can't wait for my Brutosaur. Legion has been amazing for my gold making!

/u/Haaaaaarsch timed their market entry perfectly

I happened to have a week off when patch 7.2.5 went live. Crafted gear was suddenly upgradeable to ilvl 900 which was almost on par with Nighthold Mythic gear and everyone wanted to gear their chars for the opening of ToS a week later. It was also the patch where Arms warriors received many buffs and became the top dps class. I made millions that week flipping and crafting gear and Obliterum, especially feverflare with high mastery. Pretty much made as much gold in that week alone as in the rest of the 2 years of legion.

Reckles with WTBGoldWhat was the most fun you had in Legion with gold-making? Which markets did you maximise at the time and which didn't last long enough? Are you hoping to replicate any of them in Battle for Azeroth

You can use Magpie, over at Xufu's pet site. It is, in my opinion, superior to Wow-pets. The Xufu site itself has a ton of features, including pet battle guides you can import directly into Rematch, a planning utility for the Celestial Tournament, team lineups for Family Familiar, etc.

As for Magpie, and making money from pets, you plug in your details, it scans your collection, and then you can use that data to see current AH values for pets you have, pets you're missing, duplicates only, etc.

You can also input multiple realms if you do pet-market arbitrage. Tell it you're buying on <Realm Name> and want to sell on <Realm Name> and it'll load a table with the buy vs sell, and the profit margin for each pet.

It also has a watch utility that you can setup to play a sound to alert you if it sees a pet reach a certain price threshold you've set.

Anyway, the link: https://magpie.wow-petguide.com/index.html

TradeSkillMaster also has a comparison toolWarcraftPetsIf you are looking to get started in Pet Battling, you can start with the guides right here on Wowhead.comWhat are your favourite pet resources? Which is your favourite battle pet? What are you looking forward to for pet battles in Battle for Azeroth?/u/drflanigan complained with an example

There are so many videos where a person will report 500k per hour and then in the video, they farm for 10 minutes and say "Well I got 3k gold worth of mats and this one really rare transmog that sells for 80k as the highest possible price across all servers, multiplied by 6 means I make 500k per hour"

/u/salawow quickly joined the conversation

I totally agree with you. In my opinion, anything above 40-50k gold per hour is suspicious. Also, the moment a new farming spot hits youtube, the supply of these items skyrocket, driving down the gold/hour ratio by alot.

Rare stuff farm (xmog, rare pets, etc) requires a large amount of hours (50+) to give a gold/hour ratio that make sense. Mats farm on the other hand are more steady so farming for 20 minutes and multipling by 3 is alright.

And not even talking about video showing "forgotten farm" about farming mats that doesn't even sell. Oh sure, there is two or three wind scales on my auction house listed at 1k each, but they stay there forever.

/u/druid_style agrees too with a desire for more stats:

Good post and I agree overall, but I would still rather go the opposite direction - farm for three hours, divide by three. That smooths out any spikes in drop rate and helps account for other fluctuations, such as times where it is a solo farm and others where you have competition for mob/node spawns.

The way to think of this is focus on the sample size. If I am reporting "average per hour" it is better to have multiple hours and average them out, than to have less than one sample and extrapolate higher.

Or focus on routes. If I have a specific route I fly for gathering herbs, run it ten times. Figure out the average time per lap and herbs per lap by dividing the totals by ten. That is also a useful metric as sometimes I will be passing through a zone and think "I wasn't going to farm ghost iron today but I'm in Jade Forest. Does it make sense to do a lap or two before moving on to wherever I was headed?" In other words, what is the opportunity cost? This type of metric is useful here.

New blogger Jack the Dipper dips a toe in to the subject on his new blog, with this extract below

'But I have items in my bag worth' "a 100k gold!". Well good luck with buying a token or a mount with those items. You can't buy a wow token with items, you first need to change that into actual gold and because you farmed (a) item(s) worth of a 100k doesn't mean you have a 100k if it's actually worth that amount.
'Yeah but this item is worth so much and it's so rare, everyone wants it!'. Lot's of people seem to have the idea that the value or rarity of an item determines how fast it will sell.
Well if that was the case then everyone would be farming those items 3 hours a day. Hell, those YouTubers would not be even making video's anymore about gold making but about gold spending. Auction houses would be empty because everyone is buying everything because they are making 700k an hour.

Take Starbucks, it's a big growing company with great profits, but why isn't every company in the world then selling coffee? Ever thought of that? Or why not every company is selling smartphones or Gucci clothes if it's worth that much? It's because not everyone needs or wants a new smartphone all the time or people are not interested in buying expansive clothes or don't have the money for it. It's about the persons needs at that moment and even if every company would sell the same product then prices would drop like a rock and profits would not be made anymore. It just doesn't work that way.

How do you deal with processing the information in gold-making content? Do you run tests of your own? Do you still learn something from this kind of content? Do you understand when something is clickbait?/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverstreaming live on Twitch@GumdropsEU

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