Rogue State on Shadowlands Beta - Changes, Bugs, and Placeholders

Shadowlands Criado 26/7/2020 em 03:38 por Mystler

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Invólucro de Sombras

Charge roughly aligns with Símbolos da Morte every 30s.
Assuming you play around aligning Símbolos da Morte and Dança das Sombras, you have an “awkward” situation that either SoD cooldown or Dance cooldown is lost by design because you hold one for the other and have no buffer charge on Dance. This does not have to be bad but it is “new” for Sub gameplay.
This talent (or gameplay without ES rather) has a more “phasic” feel. You set up maintenance buffs, then Dance, then use the waiting time until next SoD+Dance to refresh them and fill.

Amounts to roughly 1.5-2 dances per Símbolos da Morte.
The longer dance creates a massive increase in uptime that is noticeable.
In my tests, I had the impression that playing a “fire and forget” strategy is a valid way of playing with ES, i.e. just use anything on cooldown. Dance charges on cooldown, SoD on cooldown, refresh Rupture and Slice and Dice when they are in pandemic, no matter whether Dance is up or not.
ES now is the only way to have a buffer against cooldown loss (see left column)
ES leads to a lot more generators which has a better Synergy with the Lâminas Sombrias damage increase.

DiligênciaEviscerar Rank 2 RevisedAchar Ponto Fraco

It is currently buggy and ALWAYS deals a portion in shadow damage at rank 2, completely unrelated to Find Weakness.

Another but is that the shadow dmg spell is triggered before the physical damage and uses the combo point value of the previous Eviscerate. Otherwise, the calculation uses the current state. To explain what this means, this describes the current implementation on Beta:

Use Eviscerate A and remember the CP value.

On next Eviscerate B, take the CP value from Evis A and calculate regular Eviscerate damage for those CP as it would be right now (just like tooltip value, no armor since it is shadow damage).

Use 50% of that damage for the Shadow Eviscerate and trigger that secondary spell.

Then trigger the regular Eviscerate B damage spell and remember CP again for the next one.

Baseline AoE with Pólvora NegraEviscerar

The base physical damage it deals at maximum combo points is lower than that of a regular Tempestade de Shurikens or Lançar Shuriken, which is ridiculously low.

It currently does not scale with our Maestria: Carrasco or Estratagema Profundo. Neither does it reduce the cooldown of Técnica Secreta.

The animation is a bit boring. I am hoping it’s a placeholder but I remember that I was hoping the same when we got Técnica Secreta.

The animation is locking your position, similar to Monks' Soco Giratório do Dragão. While you can in theory use Vault to avoid falling damage, this can be annoying when you are moving with a pack of adds. I would love to see a purely visual animation that does not affect the character's position and movement, similar to Demon Hunters' Dança de Lâminas.

The shadow damage part from Vault rank 2 (which reads just like it is on Eviscerate rank 2) is not at all working as worded (i.e. 50% as additional Shadow damage). The shadow dmg part only (correctly) triggers with Find Weakness up and in proper order after the physical damage part, however, the damage is a simple AP-based damage spell. Vault shadow damage is thus always the same value, no matter what number of combo points were used for the physical part and there is no connection to the 50% modified on the ability tooltip.
This could actually be a wording discrepancy. Looking at the spell tooltip for Vault rank 2 (Pólvora Negra), it simply says “Shadow Vault now deals additional Shadow damage to targets affected by your Find Weakness.” - This is true and what it does, it just does not match the main tooltip.

Both physical and shadow damage spell have independent chances to crit.

The rank 2 effect has been changed to be unlocked at Level 58 during the Alpha. When I did not have it unlocked on a character, the effect worked anyway.

Shadow Vault works without a weapon, so it can be used together with Shuriken Storm when disarmed. Kinda neat to know.

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Bone spike target 1, generates 1 CP, applies endless DoT, deals insta dmg (around 600 in my case)

Bone spike target 2, generates 2 CP, applies endless DoT, deals insta dmg + one fracture damage (around 600 + 2200 in my case)

Bone spike target 3, generates 3 CP, applies endless DoT, deals insta dmg + two fracture damage (600 + 2200 + 2200)

For each target the dot is always static (around 900 ticks every 3s) and when it dies i get the corresponding charge back

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