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Comentado por 7929

This is actually a really nice hunter weapon. the crit and AP are nice with a little extra intelect.

Comentado por Thottbot

And thats how it's look like:
http://www.team-telefragged.de/upload/MatriX_steinaxt_1.jpg

Comentado por Thottbot

Just got this last night, almost got disenchanted by my guild, but I said I�d like to play around with it 

I�d say this is tied for 4th on my list of pre-epic hunter weapons:
1 - Dal�Rends
2 - Barbarous Blade
3 - Bone Slicing Hatchets
4 - Peacemaker / Zulian

Compared to the Peacemaker
Peacemaker
137 - 206 Damage Speed 3.40
(50.4 dps)
+56 AP
critical strike by 1%.

Peacemaker is slower w/ a higher max dmg (better for one shotting wing clip) and 10 more AP. But with the +22 int, this Axe is great for long bosses and BGs during long killing sprees where I find myself running out of mana at the worst times. But I�m not sure many hunters would prefer more mana over damage. For PVP and max dmg in the shortest time, I�d use the BB, Bone Slicing Hatchets or Dal�Rends.

Comentado por Thottbot

Ok first off, I'm a level 60 retribution paladin, and all the "hunter weapon" jokes are so old and NOT funny anymore. But this weapon has dropped a couple times for our guild, and the paladins have passed to hunters every time.

It really isn't that great for paladins. If I'm doing damage then I don't care that much about +22 int, and the speed is way to fast to be worth using with seal of command. If I'm healing, then I don't care about 44 attack power or 1% crit. There are much better paladin weapons for dealing damage, and much better paladin weapons for healing. This weapon is only useful if you want to have a weapon that is decent for both without having to switch (which is pretty silly to want).

So I say let the hunters have it, paladins shouldn't want it.

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm an enhancement shaman and even I will admit that this axe is pretty good for hunters. 44 attack power is equal to 44 agility worth of attack power...and 1% crit is equal to what like 56 agility or something like that?

If this axe had somewhere between 44 and 56 agility on it instead of 44 attack power and 1% crit...would some of you still be saying that hunters shouldnt roll on this? I think not.

Comentado por Thottbot

first off,44 ap is equal to 22agi.agility adds x2 ap for ranged and half ap for melee,so say 22 agi =+44 ranged ap and +11 melee ap,so 44 ap is actually better then +44 agi becouse your melee ap also inceases with identical stats.this formula is for hunters,not sure about other classes cause i only play hunter.This is a great weapon for hunters and we do need int,beleive it or not we use mana and the +int would be great for pvp.Add +15 agi and this is superior to some epic 2 handers and since everyone crys like babies when a hunter ask to roll on a epic 2 hander let us have this one.

Comentado por Thottbot

if u guys say that hunters dont need intellegent u are really stupid.
hunters need int too cus we use mana, if there is a weapon with so much DPS, 1%critic, 44 attack power and 22 intellegent i say this is the best weapon for hunters and shammys/paladins in the whole game,
Thank you Blizzard for starting to think of what 2h weapons hunter palays and shammys will really need.
maybe now hunters will stop saying the "Hunter Weapon" sentence :D

Comentado por Thottbot

It's a much better weapon for a shaman (even in comparison to an arcanite reaper). My DPS has gone up quiet a bit since I dumped my Arcanite Reaper for this. Just the other day I put the +22 int enchant on it. So 44 int on one good, fast and tough axe. The faster attack speed makes it a dream for a shaman for more WF procs (again, compared to an Arcanite Reaper). I've had this weapon since three days after ZG was released ... and I never look back to using my old arcanite reaper.

Comentado por Thottbot

Anyone who's seen this on a paladin has to agree that, while stat-wise it's perfect, visually this primative rock on a stick is one of the least paladin-suited weapons in the game.

Ah well, no one said anything from ZG was pretty anyways. Stinkin' uncivilized tusk-faced trolls.

Comentado por Thottbot

The thing I love most about this axe is the +22 int. Because of it, I was able to ditch previous pieces of int armor to get more +AP gear without worrying about hitting my mana pool too hard.

The speed is wonderful: I wouldn't ask for anything slower because the quick swings have resulted in many flurries and, consequently, windfuries.

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For all of you that prefer Barb blade to this for PvP, I have something to say. You must die alot...

I know most people pass on this, but I plan on using my min DKP bid next times it drops and putting a +22 int enchant on it as this will be great for getting my to exalted in AV. Your honor ranking is based on total dmg done not your HKs. Thus killing blows aren't important doing massive group damage is. Thus you want to throw up a sting on as many people possible and do your multishot and arcane shot and almost everycool, not to mention scatter shot on every mage who blinks in to AoE. If you are going all out nuke dmg (which you really should be trying to as you can get out of combat to drink easier than any other class) you can burn through your smaller mana pool faster than most casters.

Now I love my Barb Blade with +15 agil on it, but for any long mana intense boss battle or long PvP battles like AV, (Barb Blade is better for WSG as you are in close quarters more, and AB is kinda a toss up).

I haven't played a pally much, so I really have no clue how good it is for most pallies. I know the first time it dropped most of the pallies passed on it b/c of it was too fast, although one of the better pallies in the guild does also want it.

Comentado por Thottbot

I run this as my main weapon for raiding and consistently hit top or second damage dealer for the raid. The +22 int really does make a difference especially in boss fights in determining how long you can keep pumping out your hits before having to fd/drink or slow down to regen mana. In addition to that, it does make a big difference with the invariable random melee hit you might need to get off, whether it be wing clip (pvp) or an occasional raptor strike in crazy pve situations. Without focusing at all on melee I do 750-800 raptor strike crits with this monster.

Comentado por Thottbot

Put a VERY expensive +22 Int enchant on it.
Looks cool w/ yellow glow and added 660 mana to my very small mana stack.
(60 hunter... 20mark/31surv)

I suggest this weapon for PvP. HUGE hits when forced to melee, and a TON more mana while plucking off mages from atop a hill, behind a tree.

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm an elemental shaman.

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dude..the axe looks like a cave man axe. its ugly as hell. wanna see hott?
look up destroyer of worlds.. er untamed blade.. BADASS WEAP.

Comentado por Thottbot

I did a ZG run today with my guild and it dropped! I'm a paladin and this axe rly kicks ass for a paladin in pvp (int for healing, rest for dps). I won the roll but the loot master gave it to himself (he was a hunter)... When I inspected him later he still used his 2 dawn's edge... Guess if I was pissed off...

I think paladins can use this weapon as much as hunters... Anyone disagree?

Comentado por Thottbot

a fast axe with good dps,intellect bonus and bonus attack power?sorry,this was made for stormstrike spec'ed shamans.slightly faster speed will mean more chances of hitting a windfury,and we need all the chances we can get.me,i'd put an agility bonus on it,but that's just me...

Comentado por Thottbot

I got this from ZG and it is nice indeed. Very cool to finally get an item with intellect as hunters get giped on that side. to al you peeps that reckon hunters shouldn't even roll on this thing cause of no agi....well special abilities (multi-shot, aimed shot) that require mana are a HUGE part of hunters DPS, not just AP/crit. And this thing has those two things too! plus really nice raptor strikes in pvp as you are kiting someone (500+ crits i get). And as for pallys and shaman rolling before hunters. Total bull&*!@. In pve a paladin and shaman's main roll will be healing and decursing...not all the time i realise and some guilds let ppl specc DPS/tanking and so on. But you'l never be pulling the DPS a well geared hunter is...ever. I mean look at pallys and shammys tier gear...+healing everywhere $%^&load of int. And for pvp purposes that you'll need the crit and AP...why the !@#$ should you roll b4 hunters? they need the same things for pvp and for pve. Whilst there are tons of better stuff for you guys to use in the way of int. And even if the int is not the issue, pallys, shammys and hunters are all equal for AP and crit in pvp. So all three should be the priority 1 together. Wars priority 2 since you guys wouldnt need int. Thanks for your time and i hope some of the ppl hear can recognise the wisdom in my words and not just stubornly stick to their own convictions.

Comentado por Thottbot

Would love to get the thoughts of the group. Which of the following is better? I'm a marksman specced hunter doing PVE only.

Zulian Stone Axe with a +25 Agility
25 AGI
22 Intellect
+44 attack power
+1% Criti

-or-

Dual WieldedDawn's Edge both with +15 Agility
30 Agility
+2% Crit

Just go the Axe off ZG and not quite sure what to do.

Comentado por Thottbot

I had this thing drop about a day after I turned 60. I didn't realize what a great hunter weapon it was then, so I passed and it got DE'd. ;_;

Comentado por Thottbot

Have had this axe for a while now, with Lifestealing enchant. The glow is hardly visuable (bleh) but i love this axe!

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I don't care if he was the guild leader or not, if you won the roll you should have got the drop. If that's the way your guild leader is, GET OUT! He is a cheat! Guild leader sets the example for the guild. He should try to build up his guild. You should find a good guild. Guild leader is not a new word for NINJA looter.

Comentado por Allakhazam

good hunter wep, attack, crit and int mods, plus if your a hunter you dont want a wep that is super slow if you miss a couple of times your already dead by then

Comentado por Allakhazam

non of the pallies wanted it (got all MC weapons ;)) so it is mine now.
only hunter in the raid. HURRAY!

Comentado por Allakhazam

A shammy my guild runs with just got this. It's good for them too.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just got mine last week on a ZG raid. Very nice hunter weapon, especially with a +15 or +25 agi enchantment. Hunters shouldn't underestimate Int, definitely nice to have on raids where you're cutting loose with shots, stings, etc. A very nice weapon for those that can get it -- for any class.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I want this really bad for my enhancement shaman. But our guild does suicide kings for the loot system for < 20 instances. And I was first on the list when Runed Bloodstained Hauberk droped and I picked that over the zulian stone axe :)

I figured a zulian stone axe would drop befor Runed Bloodstained Hauberk did.... soooo :D

Just imagin, 58dps, 2.7 attack speed, 197 top end melee hit + furry (30% attack speed increase)

Ouch, like 350 dps tottal. when flurry is up.

Edited, Mon Jun 19 17:18:58 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got mine on our first run. Total hunter lewts this thing hits like a truck.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Oooh, that speed and int makes me cry!

Paladins should get it, IMO. Hunters will want it, but they want everything anyways.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This baby has by far the best dps among all 2 handed blue weapons. Add to that the +44 attack power and 1% crit chance and its easily one of the best 2 handed weapons in the game.

I got it 2 weeks ago and finally replaced my 2 dawn's edge. They both had +15 agi and I have the enchant on my stone axe as well. I now do more ranged and much more melee dps but my crit chance went down about 1.4%. Who cares about crit chance with all that extra dps.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got this baby last week and with imp. WF (2/2) and Flurry (5/5) + some agility/strength it simply rocks!
This along with Nature Swiftness+healing wave for fast out'a trouble rescue and spiced up with some shock's, a completly new PvP dimension has opened up for me :D

EDIT: Got +9dmg atm but farming for mats for Crusader enchant :P

Edited, Wed Mar 1 14:04:53 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

I just got this a week ago, i have this and Mandikirs sting, with the 2 i pwn baby 8)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Oh god, this would be perfect for a Shaman if not for the low DPS. *sob*

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is Hunter or shammy weapon. No such thing as a "DPS Pally". Hunter with enchantment on this thing is sexy. DPS Shaman with this is deadly. Pally with this= asking for pwnage by a shammy or Hunter

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got thie on my Hunter on tenaras, it Rules :-)

Comentado por Allakhazam

You're all stupid, the best healing blue weapon for paladin's is hammer of the grand crusader.

The best weapon in ZG for a Dps paladins is Jeklik's crusher, seeing as though seal of command procs off of the weapon proc, and vice versa, put a fiery weapon on it which also gives the weapon a chance to proc, hand of justice and then darkmoon card: maelstorm, and you have a riduculous combo of procs. Just like the paladins used to be, I have had times when the Crusher procs three times in one hit, hand of justice procs fiery weapon procs and seal of command procs, do the math, not even some warriors have crits that high.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ehrm.
Actually, that is a piece of $%^& for crit warriors.
You do know that equipping a weapon faster then 3.5 on a "crit warrior" is gonna seriously gimp the damage, right? The reaper owns this so hard its not even funny..

EDIT: Im replying to delandanda's post. Im sure its a great weapon for shamans/whatev but certanly not for warriors :p

Edited, Thu Sep 15 10:10:24 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got it on Sunday when I went on a ZG run with a mate's group. They were all epic-encrusted hardened MCers, so no-one wanted. It's become the replacement for my Barbarous Blade for PVE (with +15agi enchant of course). I really love the boost to the mana pool it provides, even if the Raptor strikes are slightly less impressive.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This axe would be perfect for my shaman I know hunters want it for the + crit and power, but there cannot be a better axe for an ele/enhancement shaman

Edited, Sun May 7 15:57:47 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got it on wed, really nice axe, pic of it can be found here:
http://www.worldofethereal.com/wowpics/zg-axe.jpg

.

Edited, Sun Sep 18 17:43:46 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

its like a Barbarous Blade, with Int. not a bad choice for hunters lacking on mana, allowing more immediate dps.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I think i'm the first person on WoW with this weapon-16:27 game time.

Comentado por Allakhazam

us crit warriors fancy that the stats are just as good as an arc reaper (faster with less attack power) and 1% chance to crit only problem is the intel but if the pole doesn't drop some warriors would raise an eye

Comentado por Allakhazam

to bad hunter cant use maces you *!@#ing moron

Comentado por Allakhazam

PALLY AXW ALL THE WAY! I have no idea why you people think that it should be used for hunters.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got this last night, no one asked me if I really needed, just told me i did, so it got popped in my inventory. This or Ice Barbed Spear? Its not that im ungratefull just not sure if its better.

Comentado por Allakhazam

i like reaper better but this weapon is pretty good also =)

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is not a paladin weapon, it's a hunter weapon. I've never heard of a raid leader telling a paladin to DPS, which is why hunters need the AP and crit chance much more than paladins. Plus, hunters need the intellect because stings and Aimed Shots can drain your mana pretty fast.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ret build Pally.

lol I am a retri pally and if you use this then you are stupid.
Unless you unleard SoC and use crusader. Then it will ROCK as steady DPS. I passed on this some days ago.. dunno why.. regret now :p some other pally got this, and 2 other 2h weapons in ZG in a few days.. lol. He should get kicked (you can't 'want' or 'need' everything you see.)

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got this on Kul'Tiras the other day, NO ONE WANTED IT! btw i'm 60 pala specced 29 / 11 / 11
with SoComm THIS baby pwnz! i hit 700, 1000 and more crits with this thing, SoCru just isnt good with it...
All paladins should seriously consider getting this, it pwns ^_^

Name - Reublucian
Class - Paladin
LvL - 60
Spec - 29 / 11 / 11

Comentado por Allakhazam

I dunno...

I say hunters first, then Pally. Only because of the passive stats. That screams hunter.

Only thing making this a pally/shaman item is the +int on it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Seriously, this is an amazing hunter weapon.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Prioroty should be Pallies and Shaman first, then Hunters. I don't see it being useful for any other class.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Ret Pallys won't like the fast speed, better off with Ice Barbed (more crit on the Ice Barbed for Paladins).

Healadins would make decent use of it, but ours use +healing stuff.

PvE Hunters, pre-1.10, should be dual wield. We've DE'd 2 so far (before the patchnotes).

Post 1.10, this is awesome for Hunters....

Comentado por Allakhazam

The sad thing is this was an "Upgrade" from my shadowstrike. A little less damage and a little fast for Seal of Command, but the AP and crit make up for that. I actually do MORE dps with this thing then the purple polearm of crap.

Oh well, time to go hit Barney for stealing my Fruity Pebbles:)

Comentado por Allakhazam

This dropped tonight for us and I got it after some discussion. Ret build Pally.

Hunter weapon? That DPS is not much use when it ain't swingin.

My 2¢.

Grungen

P.S. - from below... "Paladins should get it, IMO. Hunters will want it, but they want everything anyways. " BWAAHAHAHAHAA....

Edited, Thu Sep 29 02:02:54 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Why is this weapon bad for Seal of Command?

You hit more often, you seal of command more often. It equals out in the end. Now for stormstrike and mortal strike, this weapon is not as ideal.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Picked it up on the first kill of High Priest Venomix or however it's spelled. We offered it to Pallies first, then Hunters. It looks like a giant stone axe, pretty nifty. I'm submitting a pic with it on my back.

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