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Comentado por Sebas

this dagger has decent stats, but I don't reccomend purchasing it. Save your honor points for something better, such as the grand marshal's dirk.

Comentado por Thottbot

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/rewards-alterac.html

Comentado por Thottbot

unigue means you can have only 1.
damn it ^^

Comentado por Thottbot

the glacial one is the horde version, same weapon with an ice damage proc

Comentado por Thottbot

to get this dagger it requires revered rep

Comentado por Thottbot

I finally got this dagger and am a little disappointed the proc rate is 2% or less for the lightning. If it did a 100 damage I could see, but being only 45 and as a level 60 blue dagger somewhat dissapointed. Scarlet Kris is a better dagger than this, if you got the money to burn.

Comentado por Thottbot

If u look up glacial blade at www.wowhead.com/classic, u can see people argue about it for hours between the glacial blade and the barman shanker. The barman does slightly more dmg ambushes, but for how much more that this dagger hits the dmg ads up to be more, + 10 agility owns... so i vote this

Comentado por Thottbot

REQUIREMENT FOR THIS DAGGER: REVERED REPUTATION WITH STORMPIKE (Alliance only) nice dagger in my opinion have a friend with it has an automatic white glow (like icy/crusader mix) i like it a whole lot

Comentado por Thottbot

And this dagger is good. Alot better than what i had. Took me a while to get there but i did.
Now i'm going for Lobotimizer! =)

Comentado por Thottbot

i get roughly 500rep pr hour. thne im not counting the different quests i turn in. and if the opposite faction summon ivus/lokholar (depends on ur faction) u get 125 bonus rep when that is killed (137 if ur human, cus of the 10% more rep). 500 rep pr hour, would be 24 hors gaming from honored 2 revered without any sorts of delivering. good luck;)

Comentado por Thottbot

This is such a grindfest for the alliance. Horde always win on the server. Once you hit honored, it's a complete annoyance to grind to revered and revered to exalted makes you want to commit suicide.

You might like the idea of getting to buy this and lobotomizer for cheap with rep, but unless you're horde (other dagger obviously) - Forgot it. Just hook up with a decent guild.

For what it's worth, it's a great blue dagger. Ambush dagger all the way.

Comentado por Thottbot

No Lie I havent Lost in Alterac Valley yet Ima 58 hunter an im already honored almsot revered I won about 15times in a row i dont know if it is a string of good luck or if the allince owns vally.

Comentado por Thottbot

ok im level 54 and im already revered with stormpike and it didnt even take that long i got it n a week on my server alliance like always wins so that can help but its actually pretty easy to build rep if u kno wat to do

Comentado por Thottbot

This and the lobotimizer is a good duel set for the rouge recommend getting along with the Lobotomizer

Comentado por Thottbot

Shanker is for PvP, Electrified is for raids (unless you want something that won't break Gouge, in which case go for Electrified anyway). However, if you've gotten enough rep to get the Electrified Dagger you might as well grind the rest of it to Exalted and get The Lobotomizer which blows Shanker out of the water anyway. Me personally, I'm up to Revered with Stormpike and going to get both the Electrified and Lobotomizer so I can use them for raiding and PvP respectively.

Edit: This and Lobotomizer aren't a good pairing simply because they both have 'Chance on hit' procs which are halved on the off-hand. So it's best just to go with passive stats (+agi, +sta, +crit, +hit etc.) for the off-hand and a passive enchantment to go with it.

Comentado por Thottbot

As of patch 1.8, attack speed has no bearing on your primary special attacks (SS, Backstab, and Ambush). These all now use a "normalized" speed for attack power calculations. Daggers use 1.7, other 1h weapons use 2.4. So, for looking at which weapon will do the most main hand special attack damage, the sole determining factor is the damage range.

Look at the relevant stats:

Glacial
53 - 100 Damage
(42.5 damage per second)

Shanker
51 - 95 Damage
(36.5 damage per second)

So, not only does glacial have better dps it also damages more in ambush/backstab/ss. So yea, everyone above are basically wrong, because of the changes made to damage calculation.

Glacial is the better dagger (now) for pvp and pve.

You can also see the that glacial (electrified) is higher on the list for both BS and Ambush here: http://www.geekboys.org/wow/rogue.php

Comentado por Thottbot

i see most rogues with the lobotomizer and this dagger it's a good combo b4 using perdition's blade and core hound tooth.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Who is it dropped by? Would break the barman's damage monopoly, I think.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Proc rate is around 3%

Proc watch info:
Hits: 557
Procs: 17
Hits Per Proc: 32.7
Procs Per Minute: 1.1

This is wielded main hand and on its own (for testing)

So that's about an extra 1 or 2 damage per hit... pretty lame if you ask me
Still a nice dagger though

Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 9:25am EDT by spudnic

Comentado por Allakhazam

IT S A HUNTER'S WEAPON!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Some friendly soul who can link me the page where the items sold by each reputaion is displayed?

Comentado por Allakhazam

give PIC

Comentado por Allakhazam

Its a bit lower dmg then Barmans since Barmans has 2.00 speed and it does more dmg with higher. but it dont have that dmg over time $%^& .

But elec is twice as good.

Comentado por Allakhazam

How much honor do u need to buy this?

Comentado por Allakhazam

good or bad idea to put a 15 agi enchant on this lvl 60 blue dagger? 25 agi total.

Comentado por Allakhazam

would a 15 agi enchant be worth the gold to put on this non epic? 25 agi total with enchant.

Comentado por Allakhazam

We horde get the Glacial dagger, you can use these weapons outside AV obviously ... and its not bad as a main hand till you get the lobotomizer ....

Nice Agility on it and with +15 Agility from the Rep quest (can't remembert where - our guild enchanter did the Reputation building to get it) you get a dagger with 25 attack power main hand.

I'm using Glacial Blade currently, very nice....

(althought not taking into account Agility and only using the damage equation, Barman shanker still is a better Main hand for damage bonus)

Comentado por Allakhazam

is ther eno other way to get faction then through bg . cant ever geta bg on my server

Comentado por Allakhazam

The proc breaks gouge if it goes off =/

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4923/electrified4xe.jpg

Edited, Sat Jul 23 10:35:49 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

gonna be one of the best gettable daggers in the game, its not much work in AV to get the required reputation

Comentado por Allakhazam

C'mon. Your not have to post the PvP crap on every dam item you fool! This is worse then the "Hunter wep" people, sheesh

Comentado por Allakhazam

HUGGGS N KISSERSS

Comentado por Allakhazam

I can say this is a nice dagger with all it's means(10agi,45dmgproc) but i'd still go for the bonescraper over these as for offhand weapon, it has more AP(10agi=20AP) and the proc isn't that much dmg if ya think about max hp of players. And bonescraper is still faster what means a good poison applier cuz of it's fast speed. but for mainhand this dagger is nice until you get the lobotomizer which deals more dmg per hit and per proc. and then i would go bonescraper for off-hand and DE/sell this to a vendor.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Should be alot easier now after the patch. After the first day I got 1000 Honor and my gear sucks.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I love this dagger and chance to hit 45 nature dmg..
nice

Comentado por Allakhazam

when you get revered and get the dagger, do you JUST use in the BG? or is it yours forever?

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53 - 100 de dano	Velocidade 1.80

(42.50 de dano por segundo)
+10 Agilidade
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Chance ao acertar: Atinge o alvo causando 45 de dano de Natureza.

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