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Comentado por Simulator

Quel'Serrar is the final quest reward from a questline that begins with <Foror's Compendium of Dragon Slaying>, an item that can be rarely found in Dire Maul inside of Dusty Tomes and dropped from the various bosses.

I have been fortunate enough to personally loot this book (twice) and complete the questline, therefore I'll share a few of comments of what I experienced during my trials for future Warriors & Paladins that may be preparing to do the quest line for themselves.

Once you right click on the book and accept the quest, head to the DM library and speak to one of the NPC's (Lorekeeper Lydros) there. Once you speak to him, he will give you a quest to forge the Quel'Serrar, which ultimately requires you to attend a successful Onyxia raid.

When I went to Onyxia to complete this quest I was not the main tank and was assigned a healer whose specific job was to keep me alive so that I would be able to place the blade (Unfired Ancient Blade) in the ground at the appropriate time. So basically I did my part to contribute to the raid, and then in phase 3 at around 8-10% I ran up to where the MT was standing and dropped the blade next to him. The raids DPS let up until she had breathed on it, and then we finished the kill. Once she was dead I ran up and picked up the blade, then stabbed Onyxia with it.

In order to save time, I set my hearthstone to Feralas in advance, then ran into DM North, took a left and headed to the library. Once I spoke to the NPC he awarded me with this sword.

For some people it may be difficult to get this quest completed if your guild is not currently farming her or even attempting her at all. My advice then is to check with some guilds on your server to see if you can take up a spot at their next raid to complete the quest, and perhaps even offer them a little bit of gold as well. I have had this sword for a long time now and absolutely love it.

I wish everyone who plans on getting this sword the best of luck, and hope this post provides a little bit of insight as to what to expect.

Comentado por knofle

This sword is the number one tanking sword quite far in the game. You may like the Bloodlord's Defender (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19867) more, because of it's "on equip"-stats, but as far as I have experienced, Quel'Serrar's proc is up almost all of the time.

13 defense and 300 armor is good stuff.

Comentado por 4025

Quel'Serrar is slightly superior to Bloodlord's Defender if you are prepared to accept that it's defensive properties are less consistent.

My tests showed the "Sanctuary" Proc Rate was 1.5 to 2ppm.

For comparison it's generally accepted that the Crusader Enchant is 1ppm.
My QS had the Crusader Enchant and I performed testing with over 2000 attacks recording the procs of each.

Is the Sword worth the effort?

I did close to 200 runs to Dire Maul hoping to find this book and never did. What I did was save most of the money I made ON those runs ready to buy it should it appear on the AH. Eventually it did and I paid a fortune for it and would say it's not worth that time/money if you Raiding Zul'Gurub or Blackwing Lair.

Then again this weapon is somewhat "Iconic" which some like me can't put a price on.

Comentado por 7476

I have this on my fury warrior with a Ancient Hakkari Manslayer as my off hand. Love the proc rate on both of these. loooove the dps as well :]

Comentado por 7543

If you happen to get Foror's Compendium from just running DM for fun sometime, just sell it and save the cash for your flying mount. Otherwise, don't bother buying it. If you're in a raiding guild, several swords, including Bloodlord's Defender, and especially Maladath, are just as good or better than QS.

The expansion is out in less than 6 weeks, and it appears that quest rewards from the low 60s are comparable or better to this sword.

Comentado por 7343

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19335 Is very nice due the new talents in patch 2.0 You don't need a very fast tanking weapon, if you are protection spec. QS Would still be better thats true, but if your guild killed Razorgore and you can't get bloodlord's defender, and don't want to farm a year to get QS, then Spineshatter is pretty nice.

---EDIT

Comentado por raysofvb

One of the best Tanking weapons in the game. If you happen to find the book for cheap or happen to find it in Dire Maul..You'll be a happy Tank. By the way this weapon should go to a warrior.

Comentado por 8456

It occupies one buff slot, so....i prefer Bloodlord's Defender.
Besides, Bloodlord's Defender is easier to get.

Comentado por 8271

This is a great tanking wepon for a lvl 60 guild that just started MC, ZG, or Ony. The nice dps and rage gain is very good. Even though Paladin's can use it it still a good tanking wepon to both classes. Yes Paladins can tank..

Comentado por 9718

Great weapon for tanking for warriors. Although I don't believe it is the BEST in the game so far. There are a few weapons supierior to this but they are quite difficult to obtain. Once the book(Foror's Compendium of Dragonslaying) is acquired, you will need to turn it in located in the Dire Maul library. After that you should get a quest to head to Onyxia's Lair and at a low percentage of life, allow her to breathe on the weapon and then stab her with your heated blade, you will then have to turn in the quest for your Quel' Serrar.
Hope I was of help to you all!

Comentado por Thurissan

If anyone can... please give me some advice on how to obtain these easier if possible than just running Dire Maul over 300 times...

Comentado por redaxe

If you are intent on getting this weapon then I recommend you keep a close eye on your local AH for the Foror's Compendium of Dragon Slaying. Some bargains are bound to appear now that TBC is approaching.

I would not recommend farming for this since it has a very low drop rate.

I purchased this book a couple of months back and I have never regretted it. True, you may need your gold for your flying mount in TBC but I am confident that gold will be a lot easier to come by when you get into the expansion.

Bloodlord's Defender is a great weapon as well, but it's drop rate is around 4-5%. That means you would need to run an average of 20x ZG's to see it drop (and then compete with your other guild members to get it).

Give me Quel'Serrar anyday!

Comentado por Allakhazam

So this book drops in Dire Maul but requires the defeat of Onxyia?

Comentado por Allakhazam

http://faerhan.no-ip.com/stuff/kroni/1.jpg
http://faerhan.no-ip.com/stuff/kroni/2.jpg
the new glow sucks, i liked the violet one much more ;)

Comentado por Allakhazam

I Really want to buy the the foror to get this sword, been farming it for weeks with no luck. If you have one and want to sell then PST me in game. My name is Evere on dragonmaw horde. If you are alliance then e-mail me at Otezs04@hotmail.com and we can set something up.
Willing to Pay a lot!

Comentado por Allakhazam

Anyone who thinks Quel'Serrar is a crappy wpn obviously isnt a tank. If you are a tank and refuse to use this over the Bloodlord's Defender, you should take a look at MTs from guilds that are raiding MC, BWL, and AQ40. Just about all of them wield and swear by it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

quel is still a great tanking sword. The PvP weapons are for pvp, this thing is ment for tanks, not damage dealers.

Comentado por Allakhazam

That is soooo funny cuz the Outland wep drops are gonna WTFPWN this sword!

Comentado por Allakhazam

for one of the (if not the ONLY) end-game tank weapons, this weapon is remarkably un-remarkable...

52.5 dps? awesome, great speed/dmg~
+12 stamina? hm, sure... there are other weapons with 10/11, but 12 is good too
proc? all i can say is... unless this proc goes off every 5 hits, it is pretty weak sauce for such high end gear, it would truly be "epic" if the 20 defense and 300 armor were permanent...

as it is, the new 1h mace from dire maul (120 armor, 11sta, 41ish dps) is just 10 dps shy of this puppy, and stattly awesomer

Comentado por Allakhazam

i would sell my soul for that sword. 52.5 dps on a one hand, its fast, and its got higher damage than my current weapon? thanks.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Geez. This is so amazing im lost for words........

I dont think anyone has beaten onyxia in silvermoon yet, but hey, theres a first time for everything.

Comentado por Allakhazam

To get the Qeul'Serrar:

First, by running Dire Maul over and over, there's a chance a boss will drop a book: Compêndio do Abate de Dragões de Nostro you can buy the book off someone who found it, though you'll be looking at paying over 1000 gold for it. It is not Bind on Pickup.

Open the book and take the quest. You then take the book to the "Athenaeum", or Library in DM North. You can sneak in there as a level 60, it's that doorway in the pit with all the dogs and Ogres sitting by the fire.

You speak to an elf there by a bookshelf. He gives you Lâmina Ancestral Virgem now have the quest: Forjando a Quel'Serrar you have to take the blade with you in an Onyxia raid. When she hits "stage 3", thats when she is breathing fire, you have to place the blade in front of her. Run back to your position and continue fighting. When she breathes on it, you have 20-25 minutes to kill Onyxia or you will fail the quest. Once she is dead, you pick the fired blade up and stab it into Onyxia's corpse to cool it with her blood. You now have a Quel'Serrar :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got it last night in DM West, my first time there and it dropped off first boss, the book that is.

Edited, Sat Oct 15 11:13:17 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

got it a few days ago, really nice! :) Book droped from Magister..

Had no idea about any timer after killing onyxia, so i logged off and severel hours later logged on to return the blade in DM.. worked fine. :) so not really sure there is a timer at all.

Comentado por Allakhazam

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Edited, Mon Jan 2 23:24:05 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

to the guy who said bloodlord's defender is better, you are very much mistaken, you seem to have no clue how much quel'serrar procs, ive played my freind's warrior who has it, and in every fight it procced multiple times every 10 seconds. this makes quel'serrar MUCH better than bloodlord's. AND i know people who vendred bloodlord's after getting quel'serrar cuz its so much better....learn your facts

Comentado por Allakhazam

aint nothin special no mo, every warrior has this now :( blizz ruined the great epic tanking sword with its incredibly higher drop rate and the farmers that farm this thing and sell on the AH for obserd prices

Comentado por Allakhazam

NUB sword, cry about it, everyone has one :P your not special when you get yours (no matter how much you think you are in your own mind)

Comentado por Allakhazam

the expension pack comes in alittle over 6 months! becuse patch 1.11 and patch 1.12 comes first and it's 3 month between eavh patch!

Comentado por Allakhazam

this is hawt! and not hard quest at all!

Comentado por Allakhazam

well forging I am a 60 pally and I am a mostly in reto and protection. I have a lot of strenth and stam. I can heal but I am not spec to do it well I am a pally that can solo well and be a very good off tank. so I am and will go after this wepion and its not becuse of greed. and if blizzered wonted this to be a warrior only sword then they would have made it that way.

and I hate it when I have to act as a healer in a goup I WEAR PLATE. my armer is at 8154 and I have all blue gear on. its all on what you do with your class. if you wont a healer thats what prists are there for. as well as druids to. and I will learn how to spell later.

thejayman on sever Terenas
lev 60 pally

Comentado por Allakhazam

Right now my guild have been downing bloodlord lots and never dropped the sword but once it drops it will go to me. im thinking quel is better because it is more def and armor and people say it procs 50% of the time so anyone got any thoughts?

Comentado por Allakhazam

but a great Merchant Buy Price: =)

sry dubbel post.

Edited, Mon Apr 4 08:11:14 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

update: ok, i found it after a little digging. the name of the book is "Foror's Compendium of Dragon Slaying" and it starts the quest Foror's Compendium. man i want this bad...

i might have missed it, but could someone post the name of the Book, or the name of the Quest it starts?

thx,
Rock.

Edited, Tue Apr 5 10:48:52 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

no ones link for the new graphic seem to work =p so here is the same screenshot hosted off my guild site.

http://www.thatothersite.com/VenorUltimus//album_pic.php?pic_id=202

sadly i have the unfired blade. but cant get to an onyxia raid to save my life. guild should be doing it soon with the blood upgrade tho =D

Edited, Tue Apr 19 12:48:30 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Yea, if u fail or like I did, accidently click on the unfired blade then u can abandon the quest and just talk to the guy in DM again.

Edited, Mon Apr 25 17:18:24 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got it yeserday on Eredar (Germany) :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

That in one hand, Deathbringer in the other, Arms/fury. hello dps.

Comentado por Allakhazam

So you have to run DM until you get the book need to be taken to the elven dude who then gives you a flat sword of some kind and then you have to run through onyxia. You have to get to stage three and plant the sword so she breathes fire onto it to heat it up but you should plant late into the battle since you ony have like under 30 min. Then you kill her and pick up the hot sword and stick it into her so so you cool it down with her blood. Now this is the part where im confused do you roll on it or do you have to go take the sword back to the elven dude and then get it?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Having recently gotten hold of this beauty, I've grown very interested in the Lore that surrounds it. If anyone should have any links or information about it I would be very grateful for it. I've heard things here and there so I'm sure there are some bits of info out there... such as the meaning of the name itself; "Quel'Serrar".. I know Quel is usually used by the High Elves- Quel'Dorei, Quel'Thalas and so on... but what about Serrar?

Comentado por Allakhazam

this is the most....

BARIUS WEP

i ever seen!

ZOMG

Comentado por Allakhazam

Was lucky enough to have Compendium drop off of that Satyr boss - whatever his name is. For some reason I'm no good with DM boss names. Funny thing was me and one of the guildies were discussing how he had seen 3 books drop before when in his old guild. THREE! I mean the chance of even seeing one is about one in a thousand. Getting it forged this or next week <3

Here's the killer; We only went there because farming fronds in Felwood for the new EPL quest rewards was too slow xD

Edited, Jun 28th 2006 at 12:10pm EDT by Baguetten

Comentado por Allakhazam

I've read this whole thing and I still dont get it, how do you get one of these?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Paladins will remain heal bots. Even on horde.
Warriors are the better tanks.
Shaman can dps in expansion.

Comentado por Allakhazam

That proc is amazing.

Every 5 hits?

Do you even know what +20 defense does? If that goes off even once every other fight.. wow.

And holy god damn 52.5 DPS....

A friend of mine has this book. Time for me to go after it like crazy.

Comentado por Allakhazam

http://img198.exs.cx/img198/6900/sarvattquelserrar8tu.jpg

Sweet glow :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

with the new patch, this sword got an upgrade in the looks department
http://img127.exs.cx/img127/3038/skullshieldquelmight2rn.jpg

Comentado por Allakhazam

wassup yall jus 2 make sure so if u fail this its not over and u have 2 find the book again u can keep doin it right jus return to the dude in dire maul?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Holy ^&*! I would like to see this sword in the hands of my Warrior. How to get it ?

Comentado por Allakhazam

http://photobucket.com/albums/b258/zebraJAY/?action=view&current=QuelSerrar.jpg

Comentado por Allakhazam

A truely fine piece of equipment. My guild assisted me in forging this last Friday and it is truely as great as the stats might suggest. Read the guide at the bottom it is quite accurate as to what needs to be done to obtain this weapon. With the exception of the legendary werapons this in my opinion is the best tank sword in the game cuurently.

A couple of things...

1. The five minute thing is true so be quick about picking it up, if your in Phase three when you plant it the 20 minutes shouldnt be an issue.

2. She fears alot in phase three so see if you can get a dwarf priest to throw fear ward on you so that you are not interupted when you attempt to pick it up. Like previously stated, its instant to put it down but timed to pick it up.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Holy Hell, I want to reroll a warrior just so I can get this sword. Damn, the new graphic is like a fine-ass woman.
I wish I could just get it for my Mage to hold for looks, I would take that sweetass blade over any amount of +int/stam/crit any day.

Edited, Wed Apr 27 13:39:58 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

as title says and this.... made the pic from two screen shots of Deanon on Emerald Dream server just want to congratulate him on being the first on the server to get it (to my knowledge the first) so grats to you Deanon :)
and here's the pics....
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/2047/quelserrar3ch.jpg
*edit animations not showing ....stupid imageshack....*goes off in a huff*

Edited, Thu May 12 13:05:01 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Pic of Drivzor (Uldum) Weilding Quel'Serrar & Skullflame shield

http://img121.echo.cx/my.php?image=quelgreen9wc.jpg

Edited, Wed Jun 8 04:40:02 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

im not a big fan of the stats... it should raise str eiter +200 or 300 and make a 5% haste..:)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Been grinding fo months now for it... Hasn't dropped for anyone in my guild though...

Blizzard needs to up the drop rate.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Hunter gear omg

Comentado por Allakhazam

I have this, but it's so 2005

*grins* But yeah, got mine for 400 G during a gold farmer influx, now it's back up to 2000 G, never would have gotten it for more than 400 G cuz I fail @ farming gold

Comentado por Allakhazam

PALADInS CAN F***Ing TANK< if ur a paladin and want to tank for FREAKING ROLL A WARRIOR< PALADINS CANT TANK . PERIOD< THEY ARE MADE FOR BACKUP HEALS AND THE BUFFS>

*****************************************

60 dwarf warrior, kalecgos

Comentado por Allakhazam

The debate as to who the weapon is for is mostly moot, the book says paladins and warriors. That means by game design it's for Paladins AND Warriors. After that it comes down to a few things. Also, since the book itself doesn't bind and is a world drop, and many can be found for sale on the Auction House, it's not harming any warrior's chance to tank by a paladin having this. Simply put, forge all you want, they'll make more.

Paladins carrying and using this? Not a bad thing, every melee class needs some kind of good weapon and Quel'Serrar is a good 1H sword. It allows us to solo and PvP quite nicely. I find other items are better for instances, but then again I'm a full bore healing paladin. I've since given up the dream that paladins can solo tank anything much bigger than Scholo or Stratholme, and they have special skills to help there. So will I use this sword when I'm in an instance? Only when I want to irritate our fury warrior, but that's just some good fun. I tend to rely on my Hammer of the Grand Crusader with +22 intellect enchanted on it, and sit back and heal and buff. It's what we're best at.

Warriors, of course, love this toy. It's big, it's mean looking, it's also a badge of honor. Warriors with it can show the world they were in a group that killed Onyxia, oh and that they were fortunate enough to either find the book or the money to buy it. But that holds true for paladins as well.

As for the last part? Paladins tanking? They can off-tank. It's always been my opinion that a paladin's main job as an off tank is to sweep up stray aggro, throw a consecrate on the unattended mobs that may ag on your healers, sweep up the secondary targets until the real tank can come by, pick him up, and hold him still while your DPSers burn him down.

Oh... and Blessing of Kings? Best. Buff. Period.

My build's 31/20/0 Holy and Protection, and I'm never sitting in IF long waiting for folks to have me along to buff, heal, and save the squishies.

Comentado por Allakhazam

just got the book and killing onyxia tonight on shattered hand alliance and getting this bad boy. two members of DnT on our server have it, i'll be the third.

best tank weapon in the game by far. #$%^, maybe i'll even pvp w/ a shield now?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Had the book drop for me on Saturday the 26th. Dropped from the Drunk in north side of Dire Maul. Got a few tells from some of the higher warriors and paladins on my server (word gets out quick when members from 2 of the "uber" guilds are in your party) trying to buy the book. I figure the book is priceless though.. so I started the quest.

Onyxia still hasn't fallen on my server, so it will still be a while for me to grab this sword. Still fun to be one of, if not the first on my server to have this quest. Would be even more fun to get the sword ;)

Comentado por Allakhazam

the closest 1H wep is
Teebu's Blazing Longsword min60 dam96 - 178 Dps47.2

how can you call a 52.5 dps 1h with a fairly good Chance On Hit yes i know 300 armor is not worth anything but the +20 skill def is. this must be every tanks wet dream.

Comentado por Allakhazam

-ignore-

Edited, Tue May 3 13:12:02 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just curious, is this sword supposed to be the Warrior "Epic" ? such as Rhok'delar, Arco Longo dos Guardiões Antigos (hunter epic) ...hope not =\

Smashy
60 Tauren Warrior // Zul Jin

Comentado por Allakhazam

Great, you have the sword. HOW DO YOU GET IT?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Well i got the book and did the quest about one week ago. The only problem is that Silvermoon server crashed onWednesday so i couldn't go to Ony. Now no one will take me to kill ony. Anyone that is on silvermoon allience side willing to take a lvl 60 warrior whisp church in game. thanks =P

Comentado por Allakhazam

personally, i think this sword is better for tanking than thunder fury cuz of the proc...but thats just me...maybe thunderfury is better for multiple mobs but this is better for just one? (thunderfury proc=AOE) plaz dont shout at me... :-(

Comentado por Allakhazam

Y not dual wield this always a shield! <3

Edited, Tue Apr 11 21:38:35 2006

Comentado por Allakhazam

The poor guy just told his opinion and you call him an idiot mate. There is definitely nothing about this blade worthy to call other PPL idiots. If he is wanting this sword so badly I say OK. I'm a paladin too and used to command groups so I know what happens when PPL want something badly (breakup whorstcase scenario). A MT can handle aggro with any weapon and this one doesn't aggro well. Oh and YEA, since when does a

Considering what's the current paladin status in this game, doesn't show any mercy on weapon drops. I have seen a paladin with full tier1 set weilding a 1h green sword lvl 57 ...of the boar! This isn't about who gets the weapon. It's about the group, if they are friends or only stupid hardcores...

I personaly got my Sul'thraze a while back and it's still more worthy as most lvl 60 2H's. I could have got another weapon and HELL YEA I would like a lot of those.

Paladin as a tank... Yes it's possible and it also works on most undeads and demons but a paladins role is a little different. It's a paladin which keeps a good party alive with blesings and auras, not to mention a suicide DI action in WIPE situations, while priests offer a confortable solution for MT's and OT's. Paladin's life isn't easy and noone offers something in compensation...

HOUWGNH

Comentado por Allakhazam

i need to know where u found that its my favorite sword besides firebreather

Comentado por Allakhazam

I dont understand why people are getting mad at Pallies for walking around with this blade. If a pally wants to cough up 400-2500 G for the book at AH then whats the problem? The book did said it was for warriors and PALADINS only.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Paladins can offtank acceptably .. but will never match the threat generation of a warrior .. and your givin plate so you can run in and judge stuff in raids without dying. And so you can heal where a priest might be risky.

however saying that paladins shouldnt be allowed to roll on this is foolish its a nice mainhander for them .. or for a tank .. and tbh guys people who really want to get this sword, warriors especially will probably buy the damn book of someone friendly who wont charge them 2000 damn gold for it (got mine for 500).

Just dont take the book of someone whose got a decent chance of visiting onyxia and claiming his sword soon .. thats kinda sucky the amount of lv 55 warrs/paladins with 2000 baught gold and an untreated ancient bade that give up cos they suck when theres good warrs/paladins out there that need this sword is a travesty lol.

Comentado por Allakhazam

So, who's going to post a screenie ?

Comentado por Allakhazam

I have to admit it is a nice sword how ever, what is the cfhance of getting it? And if you do get it needs to proc at least every 3-5 swings to make it realy epic. I am not saying i would not take cause good god it has more dps then my old destiny, but as lvl 60 warrior on windrunner we have yet to find the book or rune blade and have just started fight Onyxia. And i first day at it we spent 6 hours and each time got better but still only managed to get her to 65%.
so getting that sword will be a while for us :/

Comentado por Allakhazam

I got the book sunday (03/27/05) on Mannoroth server, im not sure if i am the first one who got it on this realm , but i have a scheduled raid for onyxia friday (04/01/05), and i already killed her before, so i hope ill make it :) ill post another msg how to do it exactly, if its a succes :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Does it change the glow if you stick crusader on it?

Just curious, I am nowhere near getting this anytime soon.

Comentado por Allakhazam

thats a darn big sword for in your mainhand

Comentado por Allakhazam

Soo... Lucky enough I got the quest, and heading to beat up Onyxia...

What happens if you fail at this stage?... Putting down the blade, and then a total wipe? - Heard its easy to wipe at 5% onyxia health.., or the timer runs out?

If I put it on ground... can anyone pick it up later and ninja it?

Comentado por Allakhazam

What is the rate of the proc on this and what enchants seem to work the best for Tanking (im MT leaning tword agi instead of crusader)

Comentado por Allakhazam

This weapon absolutely rocks. I wish they would increase the drop rate on the book, so these would be more common and I could afford one.

Comentado por Allakhazam

i personally think the book should be BoP just because right now on my server there are about 10 of them up on the AH at around 1k a book... i think the best tanking sword in the game should be earned instead of bought..
some people don't understand it but for those who worked hard to get the book and kill ony, seeing somone buy it kind of ruins the feeling of hey i worked months to get that ....

Comentado por Allakhazam

On my server (Draenor) someone linked this weapon in the trade channel, but instead of it said and had an additional stat of +84 to healing spells. Has anyone else seen this or was someone able to modify the link on my server? If a version of this weapon actually exists, then it is every paladin's dream!

Comentado por Allakhazam

i just wanted to make sure, can you get foror's in a dm tribute? and if so is a tribute or non-tribute better?
thnx for the input

Comentado por Allakhazam

I don't know about holding aggro (though Righteous Fury does help), but thanks to its low speed, it combines very well with a Judged Seal of Light, followed with a Seal of the Crusader (or a nuking Seal if the pally needs to hold aggro). +55 hp nearly every hit, makes the hp go down much slower :-j

Comentado por Allakhazam

I've never played a pally so feel free to flame away. IMO if a pally has a chance to roll on the book, ROLL ON IT. I hate how people come to these forums and make them look like this is Thottbot. My friend (prot tank) just got this last night and it's a sexy ass sword, cant wait to see it in action.

Pally's CAN tank, but for how long? they have a mana pool. Warriors do not.
Same thing for druids (off topic) in bear form. they make good tanks, generate hella hate but they're missing one thing. Parry (unless this changed recently).

Warriors are given the skillset to tank/dps. Pally's are given the skills to tank/heal (for a finite amount of time). To each their own imo. If you're a pally and you can tank with your mix of oddball armor pieces(tier sets are geared for heals) then by all means tank till u run outta mana, bubble, let the warriors take over, pot and start healin.

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Not really, First sword I got which was even slightly better was the Crytalline Kopesh from nagrand at about 66/67. Dont Under estimate the proc on this. I have stopped using mine for Grom'tors charge now mind

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If you fail to get onyxia to breath fire on it after sticking the unfired sword into the ground, or fail to then cool it in her blood, must you then find the book again? or can you simply return to the quest giver and get another unfired sword?

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Can Rogues get to use this sword?

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I got mine last night. Replaced Ironfoe which I had been using forever. Ironfoe rocks though, damn.

Anyway. I dont like the look of Quel. Its way too gaudy for me, it looks like it was designed by someone who puts stickers on their car to make it go faster.

Also I think it needs a slight buff if this supposed to the be the 'epic' War/Pal quest that is comparable to the Hunter/Priest epics. Theirs blow this out of the water IMO.

A question though: Crusader or Lifestealing on this? As a maintank. What mod will parse procs for me?

H

edit: I went with Crusader. Lifesteal does not work on certain types of mobs.

Edited, Tue May 24 08:29:12 2005

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Nice, thx for pic of quel'sarrar and skullflame! im orc, have shoulder of valor and skullflame... same hehe

Edited, Sat Jun 11 02:00:50 2005

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Ill post a picture when our guild have killed Onyxia of me with it ;)

:D :D :D

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So hwo does one go about getting it?

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ya, its a paly and warrior weopon... which means mages arent supposed to be rolling for it... RIGHT URAIT? the stupid guy tolled on this and he's a shamn OMFGH4X0R5

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Can rogues use this? Cause it seems like a pretty sweet mainhand weapon...

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Quel=High
Serrar=Blade

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Now before ZG was up this was the best tankingweapon in game, though now with ZG it aint.

This weapon; Defensor do Sangrelorde aswell, or even better since it has stable stats. You don´t need to rely on a proc.

If we count it this way;
You´re in a fight with a Molten Giant and if we say that the fight goes on for 60 seconds. If you have Quel'Serrar and it procs one time during these 60 seconds you will have 13 defense and 300 armor. So we´re down to 50 seconds fight without any stats at all, except stamina.

Now Broodlord's Defender on the other hand has 80 armor, 15 stamina and Defense +4 all the time. So instead of having alot of defense and armor during 10 seconds you´ll have all these stats during the whole fight. Which is worth more imo.

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I have it and I love it ^^
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1345765

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ok, if in the new expansion paladins are getting a taunt...who cares, warriors are still the tanking class in the game. If they make paladins better than warriors at tanking i will quit, thats what happened to eq2. warriors have been and should always be the FIRST choice for tank. as far as this weapon goes? I just want it to say i have it, hakar dropped a sword for me =), so i'm happy.

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Warriors and pallies may be equal in tanking BEFORE such instances as ZG, AQ, MC, BWL, and Naxx. I say this because in instances like UBRS, LBRS, DM, Strat etc. the warriors arent really taking heavy amounts of damage, more damage = more rage, more rage = more threat producing moves, more threat producing moves = better tank. The mobs and bosses hit tons harder in MC, BWL, blah blah etc. which would suit a warrior much better because of the generation of rage. A pally however cant change the amount of aggro he produces unless he changes upgrades his gear, DPS, mana pool, health, etc. So, in my opinion pallies can tank fine in the less important instances, but once you start doing more meaningful things, a warrior should be more suited for holding aggro.

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Haha, whoever posts a "Paladin's can't tank" message has never had a paladin for a tank, my guild has the only paladin tank i have ever seen, last week in shattered halls 4 of our 5 man group wiped after getting Kargath down to 40 someodd percent, and our paladin tanked him for 5 minutes while we just sat there watching, then we decided we should go give him a hand, so she tanked Kargath for about 7-8 minutes all by herself, so give paladin tanks a chance, as far as i am concerned, they have every right to be standing among guilds as tanks as warriors do, and as far as weapons go, its not about the base damage, heck, your next weapon could have 60-70 more max damage than this but its not quite up to snuff if its dps is lower or its speed is slower

Edited, May 16th 2007 12:41pm by Artixkriegor

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BEST PICK EVER

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First you are extremely lucky and find "Forors Compendium of Dragonslaying" in Dire Maul, then you take the quest it starts (of course) and give the book to the elf-guy in At-something in DM west/north, he will then give you "A Dull and flat Elven Blade" (or something like that) Then you must face onyxia and have her breathe fire on it, and then when she dies you also need some of her blood on it, however it cannot stay hot forever, so you need to quickly deliver it back to the guy from DM, and BANG! Quel'serrar is yours! :) Its just that "easy"

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Whoa... some guild offered to let me join a onyxia raid so I could forge this sweet baby (and they turned down my small donation of 50g, which was pretty much the rest of my money after buyin this book for 1840), then when it came time for the actual raid they said they were gonna charge me 500g, so I was like no thanks...

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A friend of mine had 2 of these books drop in one DM run. They gave one to the tank that was present and kept the other for me being guild MT, now...to kill Ony!

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For a long time I always tought the Bloodlord's Defender would be a better choice because of the passive armor and defense bonus, but after getting my own Quel'Serrar and seeing how much it procs, it made me realize how much better the Quel'Serrar is compared to the Bloodlord's Defender.

The sword procs so much that the buff is active at least 80% of the time. I've had the effect to proc 3 times in a row, and then frequent enough after that where the buff never really goes out, it just keeps refreshing.

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this is what i call a uber weapon! lvl 60 imba guild pala/warrior and good gear is the key to get it. wish i was good enogh. aaaaaaahhhhhrrrrrrrrrrr

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How can you be so stupid to say all that and say, if i wanted to heal i would be a priest or a druid. Well if you wanted to tank you idiot you'd be a warrior coz pallies can't tank and i really wish they'd stop thinking they can.

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I would like to say grats to all those who have beat her. Being their for first time was a lesson for me. And grats to any who gets sword you have earned^_^

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me..
http://home.so-net.net.tw/cafedrop/peonsrevenge.jpg

Edited, Thu Jul 7 04:06:38 2005

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is awesome, on a tauren you scratch the ground :D the book droped for me in DM north after a boss run, not tribute, and king droped.

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i got foror's as a x-mas present...im only lvl 40, lol. needless to say, almost all of the lvl 60 warriors hate me =)

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I got this quest in a pug with a friend of mine from Kings Ex.Ive been farming with him a couple of times now.We run a 12 min dash threw dire west and then start again.This drops for me less then 10 mins into the run.I didnt even know what i had got.The book sells for 800-2000 Gold on Bleeding Hollow.I as MT for Burn Boys did deside that my Epic mount could wait and that i would not sell the book.Ive done some reading on this quest and cant wait to get to Onyxia.I for one will not buy my way into a great guild run as some others have done.I myself as guild master of Burn Boys would rather think my Exp speaks for itself.If i cant get asked into a group for a run then i will just wait for my own guild to get built up anough for this quest to be finished.Either way im looking so forward to the reward at the end of this quest.Looks like its going to be a hell of a ride.Congratz to all of you that hold this fine PIECE.I cant wait to join your group.
Slideways

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just bought mine off the AH for 799g! what a deal!
going to ony asap... cant wait!

Im going to be the MT for my guild but im also going to PVP with it... im a fury build and this will be nice in my main hand!

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Oh and i forgot, i got mine from the ogres king in Dire Maul

Gimly, PLD 60

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lol meant 2 say if u Fail the mission the first time can u jus return to the dude and get another sword 2 breath on or are u totally screwed and have to find the book again?

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I got this book the second time running DM tribute on my Alliance Warrior, immediately started the quest and then the unfired sword sat in my bags for 2 months. After waiting a while I had a friend of the guild invite me to come along to do my quest with him and his guild. I've been really lucky with this one. And imo its the best 1h tanking sword out there for a warrior.

Forors now sells for 2500g on Crushridge Alliance side...

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I bought the book for this for 1400g on The Maelstrom, can't wait to get it ;D imo best tanking sword there is, and it is better than bloodlord's defender yes lol, but the bloodlord's defender is the second best ya can get no doubt about it

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I got the book today after 80 big tree kills in dm west and like 30 dm runs (west and north), i got it on my first east run lol my guild will kill onyxia in 2 days cant w8 ;D

Edited, Sat Feb 18 18:53:20 2006

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When expansion set comes out level cap will rise to 70 and new items will come out. I have this book right now but i dont know what to do...should i sell it before the expansion comes out or start the quest?

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What is the best enchant for a quel, anyone?
(I have looked at crusader and lifestealing).

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everyone would prefer quel'serrar to broodlord's defender. thats why quel'serrar drops off rag lol

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Warriors take aggro off of everybody, but most importantly Rogues and caster-classes. Rogues use their abilities to do damage to the enemy while the warrior uses his Rage abilities to make sure that the aggro is kept squarely on him, which allows him to do more damage than the Rogue, otherwise the Rogue would pick up aggro everytime his negative shouts fall off. Paladins are there to keep the warrior alive while doing damage to the enemy. Feral druids are unique in the aspect that they can do damage and heal themselves while the other classes cannot. However, they cannot do as much damage or as much healing (this comes from the fact that druids can reach 60 completely by soloing and possibly never needing a group, similar to a Warlock) as a non-split class (warrior, mage, priest, rogue - in case you never played it, those are the four core classes in old-school D&D) the split classes (Warlock, Paladin, Hunter, Shaman) are intended to be based between one or the other. Paladin and Hunter are tanks first and casters second. Shaman and Warlock are casters primarily, with added effects from the Warlock's pet and the Shaman's damage. So if you were going to build a list it would look like this:

Main line:
Warrior, Rogue, Warlock pet (Voidwalker)
Support main line:
Warlock pet (Succubus), Hunter and pet, Paladin
Rear line:
Shaman, Priest, Mage, Warlock and Imp, if for some ungodly reason you use this pet. (I have a warlock, and yes, the Imp is in the Special Olympics with a gold medal. Get a V/W or a Succ.)

That is the basis for how the classes are supposed to be played as "true" to their class.

This is not counting all of the variables present, this is just where the belong according to damage and armor class and what skills they use. Not intended to pigeonhole the classes (except mage, priest and warlock - no offense, just that you're casters and damage taking isn't exactly something you are masters at.)

NOTE: This list is compiled based on the armor and damage ratings primarily and then skills and then secondary abilities (pets etc.). The basis DOES NOT take into account damage and protection that comes from items. This list is not intended to cure or diagnose any symptoms. Never pet a burning dog. Do not swim for at least an hour after reading. May cause feelings of having your face rocked. (I owe seanbaby a quarter for that line)

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Just got mine roughly an hour ago. Its a beautiful weapon. I had to log off soon after so I didn't get a chance to use it. So I have a few questions.

How often does the proc go off?
What enchant should I go with? (I'm told 15 agi.)

Pallies - I'm a Horde Prot Tank. So, I can't give much of an opinion of the validity of your desire for this sword. But from what a few alliance friends who play Pallies tell me, Pallies get no love with weaponry and get shafted into specs they don't really want to play. My only opinion is that since the book states that the quest chain for the QS is multi-class Pallies shouldn't be disallowed to roll on the book or be mocked for having this sword. In fact I'd imagine that this sword would look pretty sweet with a full Lawbringer set and a Zulian Defender. So pallies, if you happen to be hitting Dire Maul and this book drops, try for a chance at it. I know I'm no help at all to you but I think that everyone should have a fair chance at it.

Aquisition - I was lucky enuf to recieve the book as a gift from my former guild leader who had disbanded the guild and was clearing out the banks for ppl who actively gave could get something back. I immediately flew to Feralas and snuck into the DM library through the North entrance. Got my unfired blade. Unfortunately the day I was scheduled to ge tmy QS I got scheduled to work. SO my girlfriend ran the run for me. Got the treated blade and I turned it in as soon as I could get logged on. She said the fight was hectic and she was nervous (Onyxia virgin, lol). I'm happy now. I was next in line for a Bloodlord's Defender when/if it dropped, but I won't be needing it now. So its getting passed on to the other warriors now. I'll still be keeping my Annihilator axe though. Never know when my weapon might break and its always good to have a backup plan.

Vesare - 60 Troll Prot Warrior - Paper Street Soap Co. - Vek'nilash server.

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i soo want this baby!

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i need to do Test of skull, onyxia and its mine ! i will send a pic when i got this AWSOMMMMME swords ! maybe in 2-3 week... not sure. hehe

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Quel'Serrar Serrar...

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I got this sword yesterday (got the book at the day we were gonna kill ony yay =p) and damn.. it procs A LOT.
So far I had about 4 procs in ~10secs lol.. it's sick ^^

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hunter weapon.

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one question: can you pick up the heated blade before onyxia dies? or does this fail the quest?

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I just got mine today, let me say that the sanctuary proc mixed with the crusader enchant i also got on it proc all the time! Like once or twice for each one in a fight. I am loving it and think its a great warrior weapon

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enligt patrik glad är den skit kass för tanking
är detta sant? tar självmord om det är sant :/

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Hmm.. I really don't think that this is a paladin weapon. I mean, yes its fair for them to roll because of what the book actually says, but in my opinion, any decent paladin would pass on this for a warrior that needs it. I know it seems silly to you at first but when do paladins need defence and armour? do they ever tank in Molten Core? =o.

Sorry for that complaint =P

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got the book in lvl58 , first DM run , Hunter boss dropped :P

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Can somesone, give me a short and simple explanation how to get this sword? Just imagine I got the book.

(Aslak @ Dunemaul)

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Yeah, this is one of the old-school swords that are still aroun....I love this sword.

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Wow this sword isn't even that good... With the new PvP weapons out its junk.. Stupid blizzard.

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This forum system is hideosly buggy, I'll simply try a new post. Geez.

Edited, Thu Jun 9 11:11:40 2005

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This is a nice sword. Last night our offtank for MC found it and now she's very happy. Sadly only warriors and pallys can use. (lvl 60 warrior)

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Once you throw sword down, you have 5 minutes to get it heated and pick back up. I'd say around 10% or below throw the sword down. I'm the guild's MT and tried this, I ended up dying by whelps at 1% and the remaining 4 or 5 killed her and then died by the whelps. At the time i rezzed the sword vanished =(. So have to wait until instance resets to try again. You need to abandon quest and go back to DM library and talk to npc to restart quest. You can keep abandoning quest and getting new unheated blade as many times as needed until you get the job done.

Omni
Gilneas Realm
LOH FTW!

Edited, Wed Dec 14 15:49:40 2005

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wat een miette, ie heeft het gwn de miette

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When the book drops, Warriors get priority on this, here's why...

Seeing as this lasts a Prot warrior up to NAXX, and all their T1+ gear is for tanking, and all paladin T1+ gear is for healing...wonder who would benefit from this sword the most...

Do paladins tank in endgame raids? No, or very little. Specially when there's warriors there that can do it.

And if you think warriors are the biggest loot &*!@#s, that's because they can't throw up a nice little bubble and heal themselves. Warriors are #1 on gear dependency.

I think the only reason it says "Paladin" on it is because Blizzard wanted to make it that much harder for a warrior to get it, cause we know how much Blizzard likes warriors. >_<

Know your class. Paladins make decent off-tanks.

In Burning Crusade this could change though, paladins might actually be able to MT as well as a warrior, but..that remains to be seen.

All the above is concerning raiding, MC and above. Paladins can tank fine in 5-10 mans if they have what it takes. And they don't need Quel'Serrar to do it.

Edited, Dec 29th 2006 5:09am by patrickwolf

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This 1 hander seriously is awesome, any warrior with this sword will win any fight because by the tiem he has this sword he's bound to be truely epicly equipped, and dear god, 52dps? gg, best sword ever.

I'd take this over an Arcanite Reaper, Toss in a Drillborer Disk, wow, now were talkin! maintank 4 ever, dont dis it unless you tank lucifron and live with 1 priest healing u the entire time. beefy wars absorb dmg and with this, can spit it back at you.

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...considering Onyxia is about ~30 minutes of fighting, 3500dmg neglected every 3 minutes x 10 = 35000 dmg not taken. This weapon is nuts.

Three people on my server completed the quest at the same time on a joint Vanquish/The Regulators Onyxia run. None of our main tanks have picked up the quest from one of the Dire Maul bosses.

Edited, Wed Apr 6 01:17:13 2005

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Gotta like how each of those link from www.imageshack.us NEVER work. You guys want to see the new look for this sword on next patch? Here's a good link : http://www3.telus.net/public/mehwulfe/kyan/World%20of%20Warcraft/Treasure/Might%20Battlegear.jpg

And if you want to know the warrior has Shoulders of might (new design also) and skullflame shield (also new design). Btw that shield is horrible, 0 stats on it, and crappy equips that will unsheep stuff in instances, but so much ppl will want it just for the show.. :)

BTW I just got my book yesterday on my 2nd lifetime DM run, gotta like being in a 5man group, noone to compete rolls on :) FOR THE HORDE! :)

Edited, Sun Apr 17 18:02:56 2005

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Orc Warrior with Quel`Serrar + Skullflame shield

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Actually the process isnt that hard as mention forging Quel'Serrar.
You shouldnt even fail quest if ur guild has down Onyxia before.

Just drop the sword between 3%-5%.(In front of Ony of cos.:P)Let her breath on it.
Slay her.Pickup heated sword and drive it into her corpse.You got ur quest done.

You dont even needa pick the sword up like most people mention here to hit her with it.Looting the sword when attempting her will only risk youself getting killed.

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it could be HAXORZ or it had a healing enchant and to ever took this pic WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO IT WHEN YOU WERE FIGHINT RAG?

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Quel'Serrar, sera
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Quel'Serrar, sera

^_^

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So, I did a DM Tribute run back in january of 06.. got the Book off Cho'Rush (we were all good friends and the hunter wanted the sword Cho'Rush drops) I went and turned it in at the library, got my unfired ancient blade. It then sat in my bank for almost 6 months. Until last night (may 31st) I went on an Onyxia Run with some friends... we downed her in about 7 minutes. I got my Quel, and it is definitly a WTFPWNZZOR sword. I'm mostly fury spec, but I got 15 prot points for the extra threat when I'm tanking and I use Heartseeker in my offhand. Now I just have to go back to UBRS to get my Drac Deflector...

Edited, Thu Jun 1 16:57:58 2006

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this weapon is godly. if u dont no how def skill works dont talk. currently i have 450-470 skill def ^^

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This item had its glow changes in the 8 june patch, it now looks like this:

http://img112.echo.cx/img112/8109/quelnewglow5uw.jpg

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Edited, Sat Jul 16 11:14:32 2005

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i never saw the purple-glowing effect....i just know the green one (which looks pretty good, i think)

could someone post a pic of the "old" glow?

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Im just wondering, is this sword good for pvp?
Edit: just for the record; yes, i know it's a tanking sword. just wondered, cause i have the quest for it. and because im arms specced (and really dont wanna respec to protection) im just curious about this question.

Edited, Sun Sep 25 11:42:05 2005

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I am one of the few extremely lucky Warriors to get this book to drop off the king while doing a DM tribute run with 4 of my close personal friends who gladly gave it to me. My guild, Strength in Numbers on Nathrezim horde side, will be downing Onyxia this Saturday and I'll have my Quel'Serrar shortly after.

Juush
<Strength in Numbers>
60 Tauren Warrior - Nathrezim

Edited, Tue Oct 25 17:34:08 2005

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i just want to add my 'ZOMG thats uber nice!' to the list.

I SO want this thing^^
as I guess all the warriors (and pallies probably) want it:)

P.S. eep.. i see i double posted somehow! sorry.

Edited, Thu Dec 22 20:15:02 2005

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We went to farm this sword, and were expecting about 5 resets and no real hope of the sword, but it dropped off the first thing we killed : / i got it and killed onyxia the same week, /yey

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Is quel'serrar a good weapon to dual wield with?

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kk here are MY thoughts.

Now, if Paladins shouldnt tank, why the HELL does blizzard let them use plate dumb ass? And man, i play the horde and i gotta say, Paladins can be very annoying in the BGs. But their good im not saying their a bunch of idiots, just saying their hard to beet. I think you're just &*!@ing retarded to think paladins cant tank. They cant hold aggro as good as Warriors and Druids but they can tank. Learn to play you dumb ass

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No he's not crazy.

As a lv60 Warrior 20 defense does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR ME.

If that proc went off all day and all night I wouldn't even notice.

And 300 armor? That sucks too. All defensive procs suck.

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We just got 2 tonight.

http://avatar-wow.com/news.php

and our pics show "Class: Warrior, Paladin", so no rogues.

Edited, Mon Apr 11 01:24:26 2005

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Where in DM does the quest for this item start?

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Anyone wanna post where its droped i could probably scroll down and find out butt........im to tired!

------------------------
Azuro
Another one bites the dust(ohh and that cant taste good)

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for those wondering, yes, you can try again if you fail.
Abandon the quest and go back to DM north to get a new blade.

over and out

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What enchant on it ? i need the best enchant... and the green glow on the Quel is like the skullforge reaver ?

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dont know what went wrong but failed with me 2 :'(. hope i get a second chance to do it :s.

Elendill

Turalyon

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I rather use QS insteed of Bloodlord's Defender. The proc chance is pretty high.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1196278

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Lol, Quel'Serrar with Valor shoulders makes me want to bang my head on a desk...

Getting decent tank shoulders would improve your tanking more than +12 Stamina and a proc!

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OY I MUST HAVE IT *drools* IM A WARCRAFT...ill stop caps....im a warcraft freak and i know all there is to know on quel serrar and/or the high blade! im a 17 warrior you can reach me on /Meltongus/ and i know im a while away but i must have!

all those with 500g give me or your souls shall be devoured by i gigantic siamese cat.......was that a little heavy?

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Trying to say a pally tank is better than a warrior one on single targets is just stupid. I am a prot pally and i can tank through any 5/10/20 man and certain things in MC all with lvl 55-60 blues on...

The question is not whether a warrior can hold agro better. Its what types of tanking can each do better. Paladins tanks are built for AoE tanking...thats hold the agro of multiple, low-dmg targets. Warriors can in no way come even close in this department. Sure they may have a few makeshift AoE taunts, but they cannot sustain this. The only thing at this point holding paladins back is the fact that mana doesnt regen like rage...so if it is a long fight they will lose agro if they dont have pots.

This problem will be solved in the expansion. So paladins and warriors will both tank well in BC. But just in different situations. Even if a paladins can tank 1 mob fine, a warrior can do it better. That is that.

Edited, Nov 25th 2006 8:40pm by Glenan

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For you all who keep asking about the proc on Quel...it's actually quite often...my crit line mod shows it procing about 19%. As to where you get it...you have to get Foror's Compendium of Dragonslaying out of DM to get the quest then you have to do an Onyxia run so she can breath on it and you can stab her corpse with it..then return to DM and you get it.

The noob who posted that it dropped off Hakkar is either smoking crack or has never actually played WoW and is simply going off of what his friends have told him.

I've had it about 8 months and I've used it for both warrior builds..tanking and DPS. Some may laugh but I am usually around #5 on the damage meters only outdamaged by superiorly geared rogues and mages. The dmg and speed make it very useful to fury warrs, but priority on this one should go to warrior tanks.

BTW...who the hell cares if pallies have the ability to tank...their job is simple...pull bosses...heal...bubble...hearth. And what does their tanking *snicker* have to do with the sword? Farm DM if you want it that bad...I got it on my 5th farm run of DM from Hydrospawn in DM east.

Edited, Nov 27th 2006 6:54pm by Traxxus

Comentado por Dianora

Cannot be placed in Void Storage for some reason.

Comentado por Freedonut

Can't wait to get this sword in classic.

Comentado por Beyondfubar

Blizzard was maddeningly inconsistent when it came to tanking items and abilities. Paladins may do the quest for the most iconic of early vanilla's tanking weapons, but clearly don't need a taunt. Druids do get a taunt, but while that bear mob just parried your attack it makes no sense for bear form druid to do so, let's not even discuss the lack of druids and casters seeing a benefit from a new weapon tangibly as physical damage classes do.

Still with the phase rollout timeframes being something of a mystery, this may be the pinnacle of warrior tanking until phase 2 or later depending on how much you're willing to work. ZG is the first somewhat easy side grade as others have stated, and for those of us not really willing to put in the 100% focus time needed for a 40 man MT spot that's where I'd start.

Comentado por NFoRc3R

If anyone says they want it for the stats they are lying.
Tanks want it for a simple reason, it looks cool, it's epic and also hard to obtain.

Comentado por Raijinmeister

I got one compendium from Captain Kromcrush. Our guild now, XL, Horde, on Windseeker have 2 of those beauties!

Comentado por Muffpotter

As tasty as this weapon looks, I do not believe it's worth the effort/money unless:

a) You have a guild sponsoring you.
b) You have a ton of cash, or the time, patience and self-loathing to farm it yourself
c) You are human.
d) Your rogues get salty AF if you try to yoink their daggers.

Let's break it down. Quel'Serrar is obviously a tank weapon. However, the stats are rather underwhelming. It's not too slow, but not very fast either. The stamina is nice, but the proc is nothing to write home about. At a hypothetical proc rate of 2 procs per minute, it only evens out to 4 defense and 100 armor flat. That's nothing to write home about, dare I say, it's completely negligible.

Compare that to the Dente de Cão-magma. A bit less stamina, about the same DPS but faster, +20AP and 1% Crit. The more threat you do, the more DPS can be done, the faster the boss dies, and the less healing you need. It doesn't matter if your healers have to heal you a little bit more, as long as the boss dies before they go oom.

Again, if you can get it easily through whatever means, it's a good weapon. But there are great (if not better) alternatives in MC.

Comentado por Capri

Got mine on Nethergarde Keep (Alliance) for 900 gold; worth every copper, definitely recommend it.

Comentado por WDStudios

It's very gaudy and asymmetrical... just ugly overall. I'll take a Blackguard over this any day for RP purposes.

Comentado por Dcsensai

i wonder if they will remove that class restriction for shaman, rogue and lock tanks in SoD.

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