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Comentado por 6819

Pretty decent pre-MC set for a mage. The pieces drop pretty readily in ZG. You need friendly with the Zandalar Tribe for the bracers, honored for the shoulders, revered for the chest, and exhalted for the the neck piece. The trinket requires doing the edge of madness event, but the trinket is not that great for mages.

Comentado por Chandrialla

This is, I think, a very underrated set - however I don't see a need to go beyond getting the bracers, robe, and mantle. The individual pieces offer some good +damage and the set bonuses aren't bad either.

Comentado por Thottbot

Decreases mana cost for Arcane Intelligence and Arcane Brilliance. Nice.*

*Means "completely &*!@ing useless" in this context.

Comentado por Thottbot

omfg thank you blizzard. that extra mana will come in hand when I have to conjure some bread/water for all the %^&*s I just buffed

Comentado por Thottbot

Oh god, blizzard kicks ass.

I can't count the number of times my party was about to wipe and I had to spam out a quick AB to save us all, then ended up regretting it because I used 5% too much mana and couldn't get off that finishing frost bolt.

I think it would have been better, and a better directed insult as well, had blizzard reduced the casting cost of summoning food and water by 5%.

Comentado por Thottbot

nah i've been playing since the first day, and they havent been nerfed. i like mage best, and yeah thats a pretty insulting set bonus man. but i'd still like this set cause i never win anything else haha.

Comentado por Thottbot

I think everyone is being overly critical of this set. Yes the 5% less mana on AB is a joke, but the other bonuses on the set are not bad. Did everyone overlook that this set will increase damage by up to 74! That�s petty good. I also like the .5 sec reduction in Flamestrike. Anyone who uses counterspell will also like the 2 seconds saving on the spell�s cooldown. And the best thing about this set is that it basically is only 4 pieces(not counting the trinket), which gives a player the ability to further customize their character. No, it�s not the best set in the game, but it is more obtainable than the superior sets.

Anyway, don�t know if I changed any minds, but I would be glad to have this set.

Comentado por Thottbot

I agree that people are overly critical of the set based solely of the bonuses.

1) The 2peice bonus is great
2) The 3 pieces of the Robes, Mantle, and Bracers are far better than their #$%^ty Arcanist equivalents (well, except the mantle if you are a frost mage, then arcanist is about equal).

Look at the set as having three kick ass items, 1 mediocre item (the necklace) and one utter *!@# item (the trinket), ignore the set bonuses, the items themselves are mostly great.

I run MC as well, I have Arcanist Mantle and Arcanist Robes. I have the ZG bracers and am working towards the mantle now then the robe, I would replace my arcanist &*!@ with these in a heartbeat when I get them, without question. Those 3 pieces are simply superior to any item you can get in MC for the same slot (though you could argue the RObes of Volatile Power are equal or better if you really like your +crit).

Comentado por Thottbot

While the trinket is a joke, and the pebble is only slightly useful at its final form for the reduced counterspell time (does Blizzard not realize that our level 50 quest has a superior neck reward?), the bracers and shoulders are both excellent, at least when used together to get the +12 spell power bonus you get at 2/5.

Comentado por Thottbot

The set bonus should be:

"Hydration- Each time you sucessfully cast Fireball, Frostbolt or Arcane Missles your next Conjure Water spell is reduced by 50% mana cost."

Comentado por Thottbot

Honestly, I've built my mage gear on pure raw damage. My full +damage suit is over 300 to frost spells, and that's with only 1 epic item in it...a level 40 freezing band. My frost bolts hit for about 760-800 per spell, with crits in the mid 1500's to low 1600's.

I'm currently using a green +21 to frost pair of bracers as there really isn't anything blue that compares to that in terms of pure +damage, and the +29 to frost Boreal Mantal for shoulders. Combined, those both give +50 to frost spells, and +15 Frost resistance.

Though I completely agree, this set in whole is utterly stupid...the bracer and shoulders, when only those two are used together...are actually fairly darn good. I would loose 50 +frost specifc damage(And the frost resist...woopie...), but gain +38 to all damage(great for my Insant Arc Ex'es) +21 Stam and 32 Int. I normally try Very hard to focus Purely on the max +damage that I can get...but honestly, I can't argue with That large of a stat boost and the fact that I get the extra damage to all my spells, even if I'm loosing 12 damge specifically to my frost bolts. The nearly 1% extra crit I'll get from the Int, as well as the 480 mana and 210 health make up for it in the long run for sure I think.

Bottom line, get 2 pieces for sure if you want +damage, but stop there because there are Definately better things to put in your other slots.

Comentado por Thottbot

"Bottom line, get 2 pieces for sure if you want +damage, but stop there because there are Definately better things to put in your other slots. "
Sorry, but it looks like blizzard has already put something in my slot on this set...and it's not feeling good. >:)
60 Fire/Arc Spec'd mage; and the majority of my mana spent is on buffs and water, not damage as it should be...come on blizz, I'm feeling like that pic i saw of the shoulders with water jugs should be an actual item.
Ya know, the military has a saying, "The squeaky wheel get's the grease." Maybe if all the mages out there started spamming the GM's left and right about getting shafted, maybe they'd actually listen....

Comentado por Thottbot

My mage theory is based on a decent amount of damage and crit add underlined with high stamina. I use the pebble in its highest form and the bracers for the 2 piece damage bonus. Sometimes I go shoulder bracers and crit necklace if I have a healer. I think this set and most sets should just be used for that first set bonus. Im rocking about 250ish ad to damage and 10% crit as arcane power frost with the @#$ trinkets and 3500 life unbuffed.

Arcanist pants, boots, crown
Blood guard gloves, legionaire robes
ZG bracers and neck or shoulder

Three set bonus with plus to damage and all with good stamina backing them. As for 5% off of AB, gg Blizzard on another useless set bonus.

Comentado por Thottbot

ZG mage class trinket + wrath of cenarius = 600 dmg non critical aoe instant arcane explosions = all nefarian Zerg Adds down by one mage = skill.

try to find the way to abuse the game not to laugh with what Blizzard is giving.

Comentado por Thottbot

My mage is my first character and I am glad that is was becuase compared to other classes, the mage is much harder to learn to use. It you look at Blizzard WoW site, you will see that a mage challenge is "staying alive". If at first you were a warrior, rouge or pali, no wonder you thing a mage is a hard character to play and the sets stink, but they don't really. As long as you go with a group that has one tank and one healer (both of whom know what they are doing) then the mage will not die and as long as you use your mana re-gen spells correctly along with mana agate/jade/etc and perhaps a mana potion restoration, the mage is fun and people will love you if you learn to use what the mage offers correctly!
Thanks Blizzard, the mage is awesome!

Comentado por Thottbot

all i gotta say is that the trinket is badass

Comentado por Thottbot

Ok... you kiddies complaining about the AB reduc... yer in the wrong ball game... git u sum PvP set, arcanist or netherwind, final.

NECK & TRINK = quality 2 piece.

This is an amazing 2 piece set for the PvP mage. talk about an effective i.AE bomb in AV!

2 piece with 21 spell dmg, 2 sec counter spell cooldown reduction, a few stats here and there, and a killer activated ability on the trink. that's nice!
who cares about the 5 piece, seriously, there are so many better set bonuses out there to be using your body slots...

mikasa the mage,
spirestone

Comentado por Thottbot

Sure AB/AI 5% set bonus is possibly the most uselss thing in the world,the fact that u can get a ton of stats AND +dmg with the bracers + mantle (gives u the 2 piece set bonus of +spell dmg as well for equipping them both) is pretty damn good. Imho id take those 2 pieces over the Arcanist bracers + shoulders anyday.

Comentado por Thottbot

now AB costs 3230 mana instead of 3400. woot.

plz something usefull like... 5% chance after conjruing a mana ruby, a full stack of crystal water will conjur instead of just 10. now we are atlking.

the robes and trinket arnt bad tho...anyone in MC can do better than the neckpiece and blues tho pve wise. the necklace in absoleutly amazing for pvp.

i actally have to thank this set. all the mages in my guld have the robes, so they let me have arcanist robes when they dropped. /cheer.

although ucan go neckpeice/trinket + robes, get some decent +dmg cause of set bonus. trinket would own for fire mages in MC, on rag where u need heavy dps before sons pop and immune to ur main spellz, spam AM 4tw. Or Use that trinket+improved arcane expolosion and thats some serious dps. my arcane expolsion would crit for about 700 then...instant cast? thats damn good.

Comentado por Thottbot

Taken as a whole, the set bonuses are indeed crapola. But individually, they're rather nice, especially since no one ever really gets all the items in a set at once.

For one, the trinket is easy to get, since it requires default reputation. With 1.11's review, Imp AE boosts crit chance. Combine it with this trinket and AoE farm away!

Next up is the enchant and the wrist. Frankly, it's impossible to find good wrist items, and few of them add to spell damage, unless you're doing some high level raid above the ZG stage of the game. There's even MORE damage from it, if you have some other Illusionist item equipped.

The shoulder item is pure sex. I dare you to point me at something pre-MC that gives that much damage, and those stats. This plus the wrist is a good combo; two excellent items in two hard to find slots. I'll be shooting for this to replace my Elder Wizard's Mantle.

The robe is rather nice, assuming you use another Ill. item with it. With the 2-set bonus, you'll be getting Robe of the Archmage level damage, and the +hit is nice against the 60+ bosses you'll be facing. The Use action isn't there, but the Stamina and Intellect make up for it. Very nice, especially if you don't have access to a RotA due to not being a Tailor or something.

The neck item could certainly be better, and it takes a lot to reach Exalted. At least you can use the time spent getting to Exalted to get something better. Even so, it doesn't cost an item to make, so there's that.

In summary: Makes for a great "patchwork" set. Remember, there's no #1 items in the game, there's only #1 items that you have equipped!

Comentado por Thottbot

Seems to me what you would want to do is get the trinket necklace and another piece from this set for the decreased casting cost on AB and AI. Then use the Sorcerer's Regalia with the trinket and necklace for the most efficient use of this set. The only really good bonuses come with the trinket and Necklace anyways.

Comentado por Thottbot

The poster a bit above me is right. You can barely get better wrist+shoulder combo below BWL. And this two is very easy to get!
The robe is nice as well, I'll probably finally be able to unequip my robe of winter night, just 2K rep to go :)
The trinket is just IMBA. (if you know how to play :P)
Yeah the 2 higher set bonuses are totally shameful. But the 2 item bonus is very good.

Comentado por Thottbot

Seriously, with new v2 patch arcane talents the trinket is going to be immense.

Arcane Missile getting more base +dam (143%, correct?)
Empowered to get another 45% +dam
+20/25% of int = additional +dam
talents to get +50% crit dam
+50% crit chance increase from shatter (with more levels in TBC)
+30% crit chance when clearcasting (eefctively +3% crit)
+3% crit/spell dam from talents

And then this to give another +50% crit dam, and we havent even gone into Arcane Power.

As for the rest, as others say the shoulder/wrist is good to BWL and is most importantly easily achievable. Likely to get obsolete fast in TBC....you win some, you lose some.

Comentado por Thottbot

well it's not imba but it's nice.the arcane dmg thing it's realy good espetialy in pvp where arcane missiles are good

Comentado por Thottbot

all i gotta say is spellfire....

Comentado por Thottbot

ty for all this info but WHERE DO I GET THE SET AT

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