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Comentado por 445

If you work out the math, this set is actually a better tanking set than Enchanted thorium Legs, Chest, and Stockade Pauldrons.

78 stam, 4% hit,1965 armor, 20 def from this vs
67 stam, 0 hit, 1232 armor, 27 def from other set

hit is very valuable for tanking, the strength/spirit on the other 'pre-might' tank set is not.

Plus the mats on this set are much easier/cheaper to come across. Souldarite doesn't get much use from what I've seen.

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Now that's tanking gear if ever i saw it

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Rik, maybe you should just sit down before you give yourself a hernia. The simple fact of the matter is that this set is ideal for a tank. You've got tons of stamina, and more importantly you've got +20 defense for the set (a crucial bonus post-patch). Gee, stam and defense... sounds like ideal tanking gear to me.

Worst bonuses compared to what? Epic MC and Onyxia drops? Give me a break.

Even better, anyone interested in these items wouldn't have to be an armorsmith to make them. Nor would one have to make the items himself(BOE) or even set foot in ZG at all.

The main stumbling block here is that the crafter needs Revered with the Zandalar Tribe, and it remains to be seen just how much trouble that will be.

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Items which provide +hit chance will now be allowed to counteract the increased miss chance penalty of dual wielding. This is great news for dual wielders, as you can now go above the 5% chance to hit cap.

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Keep in mind that this set is just THREE pieces. This leaves open the helm, shoulders, bracers, belt, gloves, and feet to give strength, agility, or whatever you like, let alone the rings, trinkets, and weapon/shield slots.

That is nothing to sneeze at, although I'm sure someone will, so I'll offer a pre-emptive "gesundheit".

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Set Bonus requires 300 Blacksmith

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I'd value chance to hit more important since it increases chance of special attacks to land as well.

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ummm anyone thought about having the thorium head peice with this set?

just a thought

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quick note on my last post

the darksoul + enchanted thorium helm gives these stats

Armor = 2491
Strength = 12
Stamina = 103
To Hit = 4%
Defense = 29

heres the mats

Enchanted Thorium Helm

6x Arcanite Bar
16x Enchanted Thorium Bar
6x Essence of Earth
2x Large Opal
1x Azerothian Diamond

Darksoul

20x Thorium Bar
14x Souldarite
2x Large Opal

18x Thorium Bar
12x Souldarite
2x Large Opal

16x Thorium Bar
10x Souldarite
1x Large Opal

Total

Arcanite Bar = 6
Enchanted Thorium bar = 16
Essence of Earth = 6
Large Opal = 7
Azerothian Diamond = 1
Thorium Bar = 54
Souldarite = 35

Comentado por Thottbot

This looks like a really good tanking set..not so much pve or pvp but, I like the stamina plus.

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Another comparison with fairly easy to get (or buy) equipment:

Legplates of the Eternal Guardian: 742ar/15def
Stockade Pauldrons: 472ar/10def/20sta
Ornate Adamantium Breastplate: 807ar/10def/22sta

2021 ar
35 def
42 sta

Darksoul:

1965 ar
20 def
78 sta

From the above items only the stockade pauldrons have to be bought probably, the other 2 are free quest reward and chest loot (easy to do at lvl 60)

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you not replacing the head slot your replacing the leggs and chest.

as fare as sholders. stocade are over rated couse of the 300g to buy thim. just get the bulky iron from dm north.

Enchant thorium chest +9defense ..leggs +9 defense bulky sholders +7 defense. = 25 defense

this set has no str but has 200+ more armor and more stam :) with 20 defense compleated .....add the +3 defense core armor kit to leggs and chest ...... you now have

200+armor 200+ stam and 6 more defense

and for you rich effers out thier with stocade ... you now have

200 + armor 200+ stam and -2 defense

but your still out about 45+ str eather way you go

i say screw it and get this set is is badd ass looking too

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I currently use in these slots Stockade Pauldrons, Enchanted Thorium Leggings and Ornate Adamantium Breastplate. I personally consider the 3 most important stats for tanking gear to be armor, stamina and defense.

These 3 items give me:
1854 AC
63 Stam
28 Def

Above you see that Darksoul gives you:
1965 AC
78 Stam
20 Def

So the question for me is 111 armor and 150 hit points worth an 8 defense drop or the gold time and effort it takes to farm the mats for this set?

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111 ac + 150 hp > 8 def

+str adds a trivial amount to the damage blocked, and does not increase the block %.

What people are missing is that +hit is really good for tanks. Missed sunders, heroic strikes, shield bashes, etc means a lot of lost aggro potential. Not to mention the importance not missing taunts (if +hit does apply to taunts) especially as an OT.

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I think that +% to hit is a great feature to this... i cant tell how annoying it is to have a move like disarm or one of my sunders miss while tanking something.... the only problem is making it and/or getting this at a good price.... you have to have some dedicated guild members to have this work.

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+hit is great for using revenge and shield bash, because unlike sunder and heroic strike, those abilities are on cooldowns. miss a sunder, and you just wait for the global cooldown of 1 sec and hit again. revenge has a ton of aggro attached to it, so its nice to get a better hit rate there. missing a crucial shield bash however... ouch.

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all out honesty the shoulders are the only thing you need... you can replace the legs and chest with equal if not better peices.. those shoulders rock.. they compare to bloadsoaked pauldrons... problem with this set is that it gives 20 defence with the set.. and you have to be a 300 BS.. you can get more defence having other gear and you wont have to be a BS.. get the ornate adman BP.. with enchanted thorium legs and helm... use it with these shuolders (if you dont have bloadsoaked).. lots of stam and lots of D.. chest and leggings are good.. but like i said theres equal if not better gear out there thats not hard to get

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Everyone is comparing the stats of +Defense, +Strength, +Stamina, ACvsAC...wat about the Darksoul's %chance to hit bonus? that contributes a lot when yer DW or 1Her w/ Shield...

Kanas Quote:

Let's compare Darksoul to Enchanted Thorium set:

AC: Darksoul - 1965, Enchanted Thorium - 1758
Advantage - +207 Armor to Darksoul

Stamina: 78 to 72
Advantage - +6 STA to Darksoul

Strength: 0 to 44
Advantage - +44 STR to Enchanted Thorium

Defense: 20 to 26
Advantage - +6 DEF to Enchanted Thorium

Hmmm... draw your own conclusions.
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*****Darksoul has 4% chance to hit*****
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For those of us fury warriors who can't afford to buy the mats for, or pay for a completed pair, of Titanic Leggings, the Darksoul is a decent stand in. good armor for only 3 pieces (nearly 2k alone), good stam, and most important to dual wielding warriors, +4% chance to hit. since miss rates are horrible with dual wield this set would be good for a fury warrior along with a few other +% to hit items. and for what one pair of titanic leggings cost, you can get the full Darksoul set.

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the only problem for warrior engineers is getting 300 blacksmithing to get the set bonus. Hard without mining. Getting the gear is cake compared to getting you bs up to 300 for the set bonus...but, what the heck, I think it'll be fun in the end. But be ware all you non Blacksmiths...its easy enough to get the items themselves from someone...being able to get the set bonus is the only hard part to this set. You must get 300 bs.

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C'mon, people, sure, the 440 defense is the "un-crittable" status, where lvl 63+ mobs (this includes bosses) can't crit you anymore. But be realistic, the comments on this thread has been riddiculous.

Sure, you want some defense along the side to stop gaining crushing blows in your face and such, but start looking at the Tier 1 and Tier 2 items. They don't even give 400 defense.

Start thinking! If you look at these items, they're far supperior to much things, for instance, the STAMINA in this stuff is insande, and to have all three pieces along with Blacksmithing, yes please.

The other stats, you can clean out with whatever you want, but if you want to be a good tank, start looking at items, compare them, and compare with gear you can't get, like tier 2 and tier 1. Then look at the gear you CAN get. Compare.

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