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Comentado por Manestone

I love the model. Look forward to seeing more awesome axes like this.

Comentado por Shoat

This is a prove of the fact that the Heroic<->Entry-Raids gap has been solved better then it has in TBC.

This Item is Itemlevel 200, and exactly as strong as a 2h from Naxxramas (Claymore of Ancient Power for example), making the transition from fresh 80 to Raids way easier, it could even be possible for a Guild to skip 10 Man Naxx and go to 25 Man directly if they spend some time gearing up with Heroic Gear like this.

Also, gearing up rerolls or alts in general and making them ready for raiding will be much easier thanks to the fact that Heroic Loot has Itemlevel 200 (same as 10 man naxx), this makes up for Honor Gear also requiring Arena Points now (In TBC Alts usually got equipped with at least a weapon from honor points to make raid entry easier, just because Heroic loots where worthless on 70).

I'm personally pretty happy about the upcoming Wrath-Situation, as it seems i'll be able to reroll my DK, go a few heroics and grab this baby and some other HC loot and be ready to join up with my guild which will most likely already have started raiding by then. (Catching up those 12 levels from 58 to 70 will be the toughest part for Deathknights :/)

Comentado por 54149

Love the fact that heroics drops things like this, at par with naxx 10 man gear.
If your basic aim in WotLK is to not raid and just do some instances when you wish to, but you STILL have the skills needed to finish of a hard boss, this expansion finally provides you that opportunity. And by logic we all know it's easier to get 5 really good players then 10 really good players.

Comentado por moragar

Full stats (warrior only at lvl 80)

90 Str = 180AP
54 Agi = 0,86Crit; 0,73Dodge; 108Armor
94 Sta = 940Health
90 Haste = 2,74% (weapon speed becomes 3,30s if its the only haste source)

Comentado por gazhkull

What a monster! That axe would probably chop off both your legs if you dropped it by accident.

One well-known knifemaker describes fantasy weapons aptly: "Something you can't make a sheath for..."

Comentado por theyanger

Pimp My Axe

Yo Dawg, I heard you liked axes, so I put an axe on yo axe so you can chop while you chop!

Comentado por mofaxfosho

Is the drop rate really only 4%, or is this because of lack of data?

Comentado por Shoat

Is the drop rate really only 4%, or is this because of lack of data?

www.wowhead.com/cata counts in every time this boss has been looted, and mixes up heroic and non-heroic.

This is 4% of all heroic and non-heroic lootings of this boss, and since there are A LOT more non-heroic runs then heroic runs the calculated drop rate is really low.

In fact, it is about 25%, since the endboss of a heroic instance always drops 1 epic item and one blue (unless blizz changed how heroics work),
and the boss that drops this, Loken, has 4 epic items in his heroic-loottable.

Comentado por exShinra

While it is a fairly good and well balanced axe to start raiding with, it also has the benefit of being great for Death Knight tanking with 2 Handed weapons, due to the avoidance brought upon by the agility and strength.

At level 80 a Death Knight should see:

1.92% Dodge
0.49% Parry

Not bad for a DK tank.

Comentado por 257236

Not the best stats ever though, still 20 dps over almost anything one can get in heroics. I'm still getting this for my DK.

Comentado por Kuja

super annoying to get. killed the boss about every day since the last ding and still haven't seen it drop. oh well, at least its free emblems. i wonder why there's only one 2hander drop from heroics though.

Comentado por 53225

Thinking about it, this weapon seems to me to be designed if not necessarily specifically for, with death knight tanks in mind. The Devs have said that DK's are intended to tank with a 2-handed weapon, and since there aren't any with outright defensive stats aside from the random feral staff, something with STR, AGI, and STM seems a likely choice.

Death knights get huge bonuses from AGI all around. Decent armor, decent dodge, not to mention the extra parry they get from STR. The haste is just icing really. When compared to a lot of 2-handers, this seems really tailored for DK tanking, in the absence of 2-handers with outright defensive stats, like defense rating or parry rating.

Comentado por 267565

Are you kidding me? Given the stats, this axe is amazing for 2h tanking with a DK. I've had ret pallies, warriors, and other DKs promise to pass on this for me should it ever drop (I've done heroic HoL three times now) because of how great it is. It's incredibly selfish for another 2h user to say we shouldn't be rolling on this axe.

If you're in a heroic to begin with, any TG warrior should already have a very nice set of 2h's from either quests or another heroic. Any pally should also have a fairly nice weapon at this point. There are very few items of this caliber pre Naxx25.

I honestly can't wait to get my hands on this as a frost DK. It's far easier to hold threat with a 2h over duals from what I've seen. Chalk one up to Blizzard for not completely leaving us out to dry.

Comentado por 267565

I just checked out WoWInsider for the new blacksmithing weapons, and hopefully they will be making these BoE and not BoP and I will most certainly take one of the two.

As for your comment zito, I was merely agreeing with the sentiment that it's a bit selfish for anyone to be annoyed by a class that could make very good use of a weapon not to roll on it. I completely agree that this also an amazing weapon for a TG warrior as well.... especially after showing it to my brother and having to wipe drool off my keyboard.

I apologize if it seemed as if I thought warriors shouldn't be rolling on this. If I ever bother leveling mine to 80, I know I would roll on this weapon every time I saw it until I had a pair. :)

Comentado por 131525

it seems to me that this axe and titansteel destroyer is the best combination to start normal naxxramas for a fury warrior.(be careful and put the mace in your mainhand for the expertise bonus if you play a dwarf like i do)

you can skip normal nax also since a better weap drops only from kelthuzard when in heroic nax you only need to down 3rd boss to get a better mace(or just be lucky and get random mob drop which is also better than those 2 weaps - cant remember the name atm)

Comentado por 292136

Ok so I have a question for those of us ret pallys out there hit rating is a important factor to have where you need it to be and the cap is set right now at 297 last I checked My hit rating is at 220 in that case i have this weapon would it be better for me to use titansteel destroyer over this one due to the fact that it has the plus 54 hit rating and will put me much closer to the cap vs using the +16 yellow hit gems to bring it up.

thanks for the feedback

Comentado por crazygu

whats with the purging and all that?

Comentado por 313403

Just a note for those people wondering about what enchants will show on this. The https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=41976 effect will show up but curiously https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=22559 will not, which was highly disappointing for me. As for the berserking and massacre enchants, I can't comment on those as I'm saving the mats for those enchants on Death's Bite/Betrayer of Humanity.

Comentado por Stormrider

The drop rate on this is very low. I've ran it for 2 months now and it dropped for the first time today, unlucky for me, someone ninja'd it.

Comentado por Copybass

YO DAWG! WE HEARD YOU LIKE AXES. So, we put an Axe on your Axe on your Axe on your Mining pick, so you can cut while you cut!

Comentado por 226143

I was wondering, should i use this axe or Saliva Corroded Pike for DK tanking? This axe have more avoidance but the polearm have loads of stamina on it.

Comentado por Vynnarra

Well did my first heroic HoL 2day on my DK and was and to my surprize and great pleasure this sweet lil axe droped.
Lets just hope i have more of the same luck with other loots

Comentado por fatgraymatt

Blizz, how about just ONE more epic Titan's Grip weapon that can drop from a heroic? My main is a fury warrior and this axe dropped 3 times out of my first 8 or 9 trips there. I lost every need roll, the last to a SHAMMY! Since then I've only grouped with people who already have or can't use this. I've done it on heroic another 18 times now and the damn thing just won't drop. I rolled a 100 to win The Jawbone on my first ever Naxx run and yet after 26 heroic HOL runs I can't seem to walk out with this thing? Grrrrr, Shammies....

Comentado por 283244

ahh this axe looks awsome (stats and graphicz!) great for dk tanks (nice negation :O) and starting dps. what i dont like is that it drops from the last boss of a kinda long instance :P. bummer.

Comentado por 117905

My poor pally just got out-rolled on this by a hunter. On the bright side, at least that hunter will melt faces in melee, amirite?

Edit: Downranked eh? Guess I made some poor huntards angry. Ok, ok, you win! This is totally a hunter weapon.

Comentado por 318373

A hunter that rolls on this weapon seriously needs to delete their toon... it's almost as bad as a hunter rolling on Gorehowl.

Comentado por Fleksnes

Did six runs, got two axes (TG war). RNG!

Comentado por 341640

anyone else see the model similarity to https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=38633# ? not so much the details, just the main shape of it. just thought i'd share.

Comentado por Horac

Tell me about it,,,,,,,,,I had to run this H Hol at least 20x to get it. At least! Tonight it paid off,,,,, Never give up on trying to get it guys and gals,,,,,you will eventually.

Comentado por Ramrom95

Got this dropped a few days ago, it looks great :D

Comentado por Fabolous1990

Done HOL HC last night, group brought Loken down but then got wiped, i used Pally Cheat ^^ (LoH and Bubble) finished him off and group gave me the axe as a reward, so thanks to them I now have a good retri weapon.

Great axe btw and looks awesome.

Comentado por 105060

Got this on my 11th kill, been dropping every time since.

It has the essential stats for all 3 melee 2h weapon wielding classes. So in short, the best weapon to have before going to raids.

Comentado por 257584

Is this better or is Titansteel destroyer better for a DK?

Comentado por faia

for non warriors who seek this axe

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/april/articles/atournament_rewards_1.jpg
can be a better choice as it got hit to (pay agli for hit)

Comentado por 354637

QQ a tank ninjad this off me...

Comentado por SerjTankian

I wouldn't think this axe would be very good for tank or DPS Death Knight. Agility really has no for a DK use unless used for PvP. Even then, its debatable whether it is really that much more helpful. I would say to find something with better STR.

Comentado por 360865

Only ever ran HOL heroic 2 times, and got this on the second run through tonight.

Used this to replace an Argent Skeleton Crusher, so hopefully with a nice enchant it will boost my DPS as Fury Warrior (yes I'm still Fury despite the crappy TG nerf).

Comentado por 273746

yay i just got this sweet weapon yesterday after doing this for about 10 times now, i tought it would never drop

Comentado por 181086

I have a question if i may ask, what is better this with titensteel destroyer or 2 of this?
sorry if this question bothers you.

forgot to say that im a fury warrior

Comentado por agelos

Well, i have a death knight tanker so and i am on a delima. using the titansteel mace or the colosseal axe
Of course, you lose 11 stamina and 34str but you gain agility. With the rune of stoneskin gorgolye you get 25 defense and 2% stamina https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare=41257;37852 here is the link of those two items comparison. I am thinking of going for the axe since i can benefit kinda lot from the agility and the haste (since i am frost specced +haste from icy talons). Hope i was helpful

Comentado por Budlaorf

The thing that makes me wanna pick this up over Titansteel Destroyer is the fact that my DK is an orc and benifits from https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=20574, and expertise is a stat all tanks want. So keep it in mind if you're an orc.

Comentado por freakeystyley34

Just thought i'd add my 2c as an arms warr. In the arms tree you have to spec depending on your weapon into Poleaxe spec, Mace spec or Sword spec. I have heard from various sources that sword spec is the worst of the three so a mace like the titansteel destroyer or an axe like this one might be more useful to you than a sword such as the Claymore of ancient power.

Comentado por 162269

1 hit 3 executes >.<

Comentado por 365497

Compared to Titansteel Destroyer this axe gives a slightly larger amount of dps for a furry warrior (especially for an orc warrior), presuming that your character is hit-capped. MaxDPS agrees ^_^
Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver > Sword of Justice > Titansteel Destroyer > Mojo Masked Crusher > Edge of Oblivion > Hammer of Grief

Comentado por 106202

As of 3.1 this has a unique model, but a new 203 dps weapon, the Edge of Ruin, will be released in 3.2 with a recolored model. It drops from the new 5-man dungeon and will effectively replace the Colossal Cleaver-clad Skull for melee classes. http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/img/screenshots/item/screenshot_47493.jpg

Comentado por 234482

Hay gais i'm not sure if this is obvious but this isn't a hunter weapon..

Comentado por Turostin

Is this better for a Unholy PvP specced DK than Titansteel Destroyer? I'd like to know it so I won't need to start HoL farming if it's not even good. :P

Comentado por 368647

This is the best arms warrior weapon available in the game pre-raiding.

Comentado por 432849

just got this today on my first heroic run w/ the guild really amazing and not that bad looking either lol...

Comentado por Razzell

I have a DK tank/dps...

The axe is definitely on my tank spec, as i have no problems with tps, and that 1.9% dodge really is nice.

It does have less Stamina(-11), but i have 34,000 unbuffed hp anyway, so losing 100 hp isn't that much of an issue, especially seeing as that 2% dodge basically negates the loss of hp.
My main healer noted that after getting this axe, his job was a little easier.

The Titansteel Destroyer is on my dps spec, as the hit and strength bonuses are much nicer.

Comentado por 404088

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=47078 has almost 100 DPS more, the new items are way too OP >.>

Comentado por 451823

This axe looks better than the new Icecrown Legendary :-(

Comentado por 32801

Arf.... Just dinged 80 with my DK, went on AH, bought a Titansteel Destroyer and happily went on my first daily heroic, only to have this drop and noone else needing it.. That was 1,2K gold well spent!

Comentado por 438382

With combination of hatefull gear+uldu1st floor item, and two of this axes, is there is a way to make a 3k++ DPS? (sorry for the bad grammar >.<)

Comentado por 496756

maybe im blind but no one has commented on these being non-unique and that a fury warr could have TWO cleaver clad skulls! thats like what? 8 blades and two scythes?

Comentado por dismantledsoul

I had only run hol twice, i do fairly well as a dk tank when i had really crappy 78 green weapons, i'm looking forward to seeing how much better i do with this one.

Comentado por 496053

Skull clad normally suggests multiple skulls. I only see one The proper name would be "Colossal Axe-clad Axe" or perhaps "Colossal Axe-Clad Object" or my personal favorite "Colossal Blade-clad Pointy Stick"

Whoever is the guys who suggest "Put a sharp thing on it" is doing a great job at Blizzard. I mean 90% of the plate gear might as well be classified as a weapon these days. I find it weird that a holy paladin has more sharp objects then half the dps in a raid. But look on the bright side, if you are about to wipe the healer could rush the boss and spear him using several of his blades to hopefully take out the rest of the bosses health thus saving the raid...

Comentado por Avatar720

7 Loken kills here and still no sign of this thing. My bad luck run with weapons seems to have no end.

Comentado por Xcythe

YXOR, I PLURAL!

for those who doesn't understand what i mean

oh and Yxor = axes in swedish.

Comentado por 887283

A favorite 2h Axe Model, I used this through alot of Raid Content in Wrath, and held on to it for sentiment. Now, with Transmog, I look forward to putting its skin back into play.

Comentado por VindicoSolus

Here is a nice looking transmogrification set that may fit well with this weapon, give or take =)

Head: Coroa de Malorne(Druid)
Shoulder: Espaldares Vigorosos
Chest: Colete Imponente
Waist: Cinto Vigoroso
Hands: Protetores de Mão Vigorosos
Legs: Calças Imponentes(possibly)
Feet: Pisoteadores Vigorosos

I was unable to locate anything else, or think of anything else that may fit to this set. If you want me to add to this set, please upvote or downvote this post and I will come check to see what has been posted. Keep in mind that these pieces are all leather. This list needs some Head and Back slot ideas.

Thanks for any input to help add (or remove) any of the items on this list.

Comentado por stickshift

Equip a Gordok Ogre Suit and this already huge 2H axe scales to about the size of your average murloc hut.

Edit: See screenshot

Comentado por vulkara97

EVERY HoL HC group: Axe HR.

Comentado por Birdman3310

I'm convinced this drop rate is a lie. I have run H-HoL 22 times since wotlk released and have yet to see it drop. That probability is so minuscule it's unbelievable

Comentado por MadShakaal

Day 20 of trying to get this axe, hasn't dropped once. The drop rate is WAY below Wowheads 23%. I created a ticket on the 16th day of a possible bug in the loot-table and Blizzard said they'd look into it.

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Cutelo Colossal da Caveira

Nível do Item: 200
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Duas mãos	Machado

507 - 761 de dano	Velocidade 3.40

(186.47 de dano por segundo)
+90 Força
+54 Agilidade
+94 Vigor
Durabilidade 120 / 120

Requer Nível 80
Equipado: Aumenta em 90 a taxa de aceleração.

Preço de Venda: 24 68 73

Saqueado de: Loken

Chance de Saque: 10.04%

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