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Comentado por 20450

Anyone have a picture of this beast?

Comentado por nookleer

You can't say it's useless to have an off-hand item this powerful... with something like the Nathrezim Mindblade in main hand, this is 439 +spell damage before counting any gear at all.

For an elemental shaman, it may be worth the losses they'd take respeccing to allow for dual wielding with two such weapons in hand.

Comentado por 22103

An elemental shammy would have to sacrifice
-5% to crit
-9% to hit
-5% chance to double cast
-Fire wrath totem (+3% to crit and hit)
-12% threat reduction
-6 yards of range on spells
-4k+ armor and any number of stats on a caster shield
-Elemental Mastery (100% crit bonus and mana free on next spell cast every 3 minutes)

To get the talents to dual wield caster daggers.

Comentado por 59509

Yea as moreintplz said, its expressing why going enhancement into DW as elemental simply to be able to OH (for the more dmg and thus another enchant,, etc, since shields have low dmg stats) and 200ish dmg gain isnt worth it imo.

However it is nice for a pure enhancement shaman to get as an offhand healing dagger now that they nerfed ceremonial kris!!!
whoops, pardon me, I have to leave before all the casters murder me!

Comentado por 4861

Current highest +dmg dagger in the game.

Mages and warlocks will lust after the Tempest of Chaos: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=30910

Therefore, expect Elemental Shamans and Shadow Priests to bid high and be the first recipients of this item.

It remains to be seen if a mace with similar +dmg exists, as was the case with Wraith Blade and End of Dreams.

Comentado por 42159

until you kill archimonde this is the best weapon in the game for any caster.

Comentado por Febreze

So check this out.

NON-UNIQUE

ONE-HANDED

if a shaman got dual wield and added 40 spell damage to each, they'd get 552 spell damage from weapons alone.

Ill sit here expecting the nerf soon enough...

Comentado por 34921

You really do not lose much by doing a 30, 31 (or 29, 32 for SS) the only real problem with this is definitly not a raid build and this will be sought after by all the other caster DPS in your raid but feasabilty aside DW this is a great idea.

Comentado por 46113

actually if i herd this right..shamans might get duel weild passively, we just have to wait and see.

Comentado por ZombiePope

Patch 2.2 added a mace alternative to this weapon, dropping off Hyjal trash: Hammer of Judgement

It has near-identical stats, with the main difference being 22 spellhit instead of spellcrit.

Comentado por 5743

This becomes the second best damage weapon for elemental shamans and shadow priests in patch 2.3

Stats compared to

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=33687

-3 Stamina
-1 Intellect
-22 Spell Crit
+17 Hit
+18 Resilience (not needed for PvE)
+11 Spell Damage

Comentado por 59188

Its funny. Going back to what Febreeze posted a couple months ago...

Now in 2.3 its very viable for an elemental shaman to pick up dual wield because of the Mental Quickness change. I tested this and was able to take my shaman from 907 unbuffed damage to 1260 unbuffed damage (without using this as an OH). Putting this dagger in the offhand, combined with this spec, would allow a 2.3 "EleHancement" Shaman to break 2100 spell damage in a raid (buffs such as battle shout, might, and strength of earth totem would all grant +dmg as well).

If this remains as a 1h non-unique weapon, my Shaman will definately OH it as a raid elemental spec in the future.

Comentado por 4644

This weapon beats out the new ZA weapons in raw dps power hands down for any caster and should be taken without doubt (unless your farming Archi every week).

This vs Tempest of Chaos obvious is weaker but it's not as weak as people make it out to be. According to my math going to "Uber" Tempest MH / Rage Offhand will give you about 340 DPS while going the combo (and much easier to obtain) Maelstrom / Rage Offhand will give you about 320 DPS. You lose out on about 20 DPS going this route.

However another point I will make if you plan on going the Illidian staff route (like myself) you WILL want this Dagger leave Tempest to the people that want that weapon combo.

I have found that Illidians Staff produces even better DPS over the much revered Tempest / Rage combo simply because of all the wasted hit and the extreme amount of Haste on the Great staff. All this information is based on a Shadow Destro Lock with 4 T6 and all the best gear.

Comentado por 44004

Since this is a offhand it's possible for a shaman to go enhancement/elemental for DW, get full elemental gear and this weapon in OH together with another spell damage something in MH (enchanting with 2x 40 spelldmg).

A suitable specc would be something like this: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=hE0zAcMomZE0c0xxshzo

Comentado por 9697

Not Unique.

Not Main Hand.

30/31 Ele/Enh Shaman builds would rip things apart dual wielding these.

Comentado por 79013

true enough but if you did get to as a shammy for the helll of it (say your guild has this on farm) it would make for some fun pvp maybe not good but fun :)

Comentado por 88189

A shaman could actually dual-wield this (One-hand!), but to do so, you'll have to drop some very important talents from the elemental tree to get Dual Wield... +472 Spell Damage... mmmm

By the way, this is the only Epic +Damage OneHander in the game =)

Comentado por 116147

Currently the best weapon in the game for Moonkins and Elemental Shamans. Hammer of Judgement/Vengeful Gavel is better for Prot Paladins (who can't use daggers anyway) and Shadow Priests.

Comentado por 15173

I'm not so sure if this is better than the Hammer of Judgement for elemental shammies. Currently I'm running around in T4/badge gear, I passed on T5 because I wanted to retain 2pc T4 bonus, therefore I needed to gem myself with pure spellhit gems to hit the cap. I want to go for the Hammer when it drops, which will allow me to resocket spellhit gems for pure spelldamage gems (around 20 more damage this way), and - to be honest - being around ~45% crit raidbuffed, 22 crit rating wouldn't change much for me.

Of course if you have T6 already, which is overflowing with spellhit, you should go fot the Najentus' Dagger (which dropped for us tonight on our first kill, btw, mages were quite happy).

So yes, do the math yourself and don't listen to others :)

Comentado por 47020

Changed in patch 2.4

Base attack damage raised

Comentado por Roulk

It really REALLY annoys me that they changed this to a Main-Hand weapon.
The 30/31/0 Shaman build (Dual Wielding Spell Blades) was not overpowered in anyway, it could pull some big numbers but in the long run it's worse off than a normal Elemental build.

It was a novelty spec that relied on this weapon's existence... It was a rare rare spec that played and felt like a Hybrid Battle-Mage character.

God forbid anyone play this game "Just for fun" after raiding for two years on repeating bosses and then picking this up after all the "real" casters have theirs... and then hitting the BG's for a little bit of "WTF" factor.

Not a chance.

Comentado por JayRay

Maelstrom, from Wowwiki:

"As the aftershocks from the Well of Eternity's implosion rattled the bones of the world, the seas rushed in to fill the gaping wound left in the earth. Nearly eighty percent of Kalimdor's landmass had been blasted apart, leaving only a handful of separate continents surrounding the new, raging sea. At the center of the new sea, where the Well of Eternity once stood, was a tumultuous storm of tidal fury and chaotic energies. This terrible scar, known as the Maelstrom, would never cease its furious spinning. It would remain a constant reminder of the terrible catastrophe... and the Utopian era that had been lost forever."

Comentado por 166672

This particular Dagger is awesome for Moonkin,
Since we knoiw Druids can't use Swords
This dagger is awesome.

Comentado por 205534

all i ever wanted
xD

Comentado por 355492

Looks great with priest t6 if you need a matching dagger for transmog. It doesn't show the enchant, which is nice

Comentado por xXJonoXx

For the purpose of Transmogrification, this weapon DOES NOT show Power Torrent when you apply it to a weapon that has it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

whoa.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Once again blizzard makes a 'One-Hand' healing dagger. Don't freak out over this if your a resto shammy. They will nerf it to a MH as soon as they realize what they did.

he is kinda right, i dont know if theres an OH with more healing then dmg on this weap you can get MH healing and OH this1

Comentado por Allakhazam

Once again blizzard makes a 'One-Hand' healing dagger. Don't freak out over this if your a resto shammy. They will nerf it to a MH as soon as they realize what they did.

Edited, Jun 2nd 2007 5:56pm by Crosisbion

Comentado por Allakhazam

Unfortunately, Shadow Priests cannnot get a 1H weapon comparable to Tempest of Chaos (this: 236 vs Tempest's 259). This is the best a SPriest can use.

Comentado por Allakhazam

A good dps weapon, clearly ment for offensive casters; KZ loot is better then this for healing (Light's Justice, for example).

This dagger is a drop of High Warlord Naj'entus, the "first" boss of Black Temple.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Yeah no doubt the will change this weapon to main handed since elemental shamen will be able to dualwield this with another spelldmg weapon :)

Have to give up tidal mastery talents tho

Comentado por Allakhazam

hawt

Comentado por Allakhazam

Wow, I wonder if they fixed this. That is hilarious.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Healing dagger? I wouldnt call it a healing dagger...

Still good for healers but only after offensive casters have rolled imo

Comentado por Thottbot

Drops in Black Temple. GL getting it.

Comentado por Thottbot

this will be switched to main hand only. It's imba for elemental shaman.

Comentado por Thottbot

If you are truely serious about raiding as an elemental shaman....you will not touch the enhancement tree.

I am a 4-piece T4 Elemental Shaman with the Merc Glad Spellblade. This would be my upgrade. Having talent points in Resto for spell hit and spell crit to CL and LB are important. If you raid, Totem of Wrath is very beneficial to every caster in your group.

You NEED to specialize as Ele/Enh/ or Resto if you want to seriously raid otherwise you will be useless.

41-0-20

Comentado por Thottbot

That may be so, but by the time you get to lvl 80 this dagger will be weak. I'm a 70 mage, but if you offered me Atiesh I probably wouldn't take it over Merc Glad's Warstaff although I might just to pose with it.

Comentado por Thottbot

How stupid some People are ... read something an Post, but don't look ahead! Did you perhaps notice that there will be updated Skilltrees @ lvl 80 no it's not about that they chance them so you need more than 31 Points to Skill DW, but that there will be new 51 Talents and as Shamans got Really nice Skilltrees they (51Talents) "maybe" fu*** useful ... beside the Fact that you will loose so many good Talents Speccing this (already now)=> no dmg at all at Raiding.

Comentado por Thottbot

Have they nerfed so u can specc enhancement then respecc and you will still have it in off hand?

Comentado por Thottbot

This is very Comparable to hammer of Judgement
33 Stam
22 Intel
22Hit
And Dmg/healing + 236
Drops off trash in Hyjal/BT

Comentado por Thottbot

21/40/0 you say? Dual wielding two spell blades? No talent points in spell hit or spell crit to LB or CL? Listen son...you WILL be resisted constantly by raid bosses...you're leet spell damage will not mean anything if you can't even hit a raid boss.

Comentado por Thottbot

This weapon should never have class priority when it comes to casters.

Shadow priests, balance druids, and elemental shaman can all use one-handed maces as well as daggers.

Mages and warlocks can both use one-handed swords as well as daggers.

All can use staves.

All benefit from crit, heavy spell damage, intellect, and stamina, and all are viable specs.

This dagger is fair game, and I admit, I'm personally waiting for the one I get my hands on :D

It looks pretty beautiful as well <3

Comentado por Thottbot

Omgz... the whole point that it is a one hand, not a main hand, meaning that an enhancement shaman CAN duel wield this for extra heals.

Hell, if I was enhancement shaman, and I wanted to heal someone, this would be the weapon I would use, or, per say, I needed a quick macro in order to self rez and then heal to full health and be able to fight again or heal someone else this would be the weapon that I would use...

*cough* just a thought, not like there are any other duel wielding casters out there :D

(or you could switch to this before you did a shock and then switch back :D)

Comentado por Thottbot

why is every1 @#$%^&ed ?

sinequanon check this

if u do 30/31/0 u can still get a kinda good elemental tree
u dont have to spend everything in ench tree
1. u get like 200+ spelldmg instead of a shield and when u raid u shouldnt be needin a shield

Aprugaros serious ?
and why should u have this and maidens mace ? go for vashj's mace or eaven illidans mace... omg

Comentado por Thottbot

It's so pretty.

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a elemental shammy, i raided up to the point of lady vashij and kael when my guild got stuck, and i couldnt find the time to play anymore. So i PvP. I thought of this spec thinking i was doing something completely differant which is the elemental/enhancement 30/31/0.
My weapons are currently the dagger from end boss in kharazhan and an axe from that same boss,.. I WISH i had that dagger, my dps would go through the roof. This SPEC DOES WORK
Most battlegrounds im top dps and top healer. If i had that dagger people would be very very scared of me.
My advice to people is.. dont knock it till you've tried it

Comentado por Thottbot

Argh... it's true, this is a main hand weapon on the test server, which means it will likely be a main hand come the next patch.

Comentado por Thottbot

As a raiding elemental shaman, I think the only way a 30/31/0 spec would be viable for raiding, would be if you had at least one other if not 2 other traditional 41/0/20 shaman in your group. I know from firsthand that 2 elemental shaman in the same group is unfair. 2 totems of wrath=no need for spell hit on your gear. 2 heroisms, a wrath of air, a tranquil air, mana regen, health regen, 2 tremor totems, etc. But seeing as how most endgame guilds (at least on my server) don't seem to like elemental shamans ( :( ) this seems unlikely to happen. Althought it is scary to think about...With the right gear and group it could be deadly. Perhaps after WotlK comes out you could make more of it but I hear the new talents won't be anything you can pass up...So as a raiding spec...probably not...

But as a pvp spec....hehehehehe

You can take the 10% extra armor, the 5% to dodge, your shocks and lightning shield will be hitting much harder than normal. And since (unless you're defending) totems become almost a non-issue, except for grounding and earthbind, you won't be missing much. You give up a free crit and 5% to crit, but the PvP gear for elemental seems to be all about the crit so I don't really see that as too much of a problem. When my guild gets there I would love to try it out...it seems pretty dirty.

Comentado por Thottbot

So by the looks of all these comments, Im assuming that it is impossible to get the dual wield talent and dual wield this then respec Elemental and resto.

Comentado por Thottbot

How about you all stop trying to fight the flow and go 40/0/21
elem/resto. Whats the point of going with a sub optimal hybrid spec for the sake of being different?

Just because it CAN be equipped in the offhand doesn't mean you
HAVE to. If you're up to warlord (which i sincerely doubt)
why don't you try this dagger with +40 spell damage and this-
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=30909/égide-do-fascínio-de-antônidas
with a +12 int on it? spec up 40/0/21 with natures swiftness (for the instant healing wave REQUIRED to survive most fights) and overload and you're cooking with lightning. A good elem PvPer uses a shield in their offhand, otherwise you're wasting the survivability of the spec. GL fighting melee classes without a viable stun or any armour. If you want to be a glass cannon go full enhancement and use a two hander or roll another class.

Don't take totem of wrath over natures swiftness for PvP, its ridiculous to think an easily destroyed ward which provides some crit is better than an instant spell of your choice.

Comentado por Thottbot

Got this tonight. Ya I'm an elemental shaman. Just look up Xanok on andorhal server.

Comentado por Thottbot

Is it just me, or is the 150 badge dagger (247 spell dmg) kinda similar. Ok, more crit on this1, but the badge dagger got slightly more spelldmg, and some more sta.

Comentado por Thottbot

I am an elem shammy that also considered dual wielding spell damage weapons for the extra damage. Though i realize this woudldn't work for 1 important reason... and that reason has nothing to do w/ talent trees.

Here is the reason...

Blizz has three types of 1-handed weapons. 1-Hand, Off-hand, and Main hand. Main hand weapons cannot ever go in the off-hand. All significant spell damage weapons are Main-hand weapons and cannot be dual wielded.

Plz correct me if i'm wrong

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